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AzerbaijanIsraelBernd2023-10-07 11:13:37 · 3yNo. 290679reply
Looks like so obvious false flag? y/n
GermanyBernd2023-10-07 13:05:21 · 3yNo. 290686reply
Why worry about a false flag? Maybe real worry is that israel just manages better.
FinlandBernd2023-10-07 14:07:54 · 3yNo. 290688reply
How? It's exactly the kind of thing that Hamas should be expected to do
SloveniaBernd2023-10-07 16:42:10 · 3yNo. 290699reply
I hope p*lis kill as many Haredim as possible before they get rightfully genocided.
BerndBernd2023-10-08 01:20:19 · 3yNo. 290742reply
Let the desert tribes kill each other.
RussiaBernd2023-10-08 07:47:10 · 3yNo. 290755reply
RussiaBernd2023-10-08 07:48:28 · 3yNo. 290756reply
I'd probably be banned from life for posting such a funny picture in any civilised country, tnx dog I live in barbarian shithole.
AzerbaijanBernd2023-10-08 11:44:10 · 3yNo. 290774reply
>civilised country
Self-proclaimed. Also point is totally shit because you can get away with way worse on pedochan or perhaps even 4shit.
GermanyBernd2023-10-09 04:24:46 · 3yNo. 290845reply
HungaryBernd2023-10-09 07:06:12 · 3yNo. 290853reply
Shit goes on for years now. Israel even attacked "Hamas" in Syria with their air force regularly. For years.
GermanyBernd2023-10-09 11:01:03 · 3yNo. 290858reply
GermanyBernd2023-10-09 13:12:58 · 3yNo. 290859reply
kek'd
RussiaBernd2023-10-09 16:55:15 · 3yNo. 290873reply
Jews have a moral right to do this (holocaust an arab)
ArgentinaBernd2023-10-15 15:00:26 · 3yNo. 291256reply
>be hamas
>completely surrounded
>food, water, electricy and fuel controlled by enemy
>start war
 
I've never seen such an instant checkmate, are they really that stupid? I guess they were expecting the other arab/islamic countries to join their deranged war against Israel, but that didn't happen
RussiaBernd2023-10-15 15:55:12 · 3yNo. 291260reply
>imagine living in 2 mln city blockaded by the enemy
SloveniaBernd2023-10-15 16:15:57 · 3yNo. 291264reply
>are they really that stupid?
They are, average IQ in Gaza is ~75, and given the measured IQ of younger children – at the time of the study, seems to be getting even worse, to ~60. Note: this is below what even the most rabid racist claim about African IQ.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282293791_Norms_for_the_Standard_Progressive_Matrices_in_the_Gaza_Strip
HungaryBernd2023-10-15 17:54:14 · 3yNo. 291281reply
>>start war
It was already ongoing. Israel/Palestine is in a constant state of conflict, since 1948, and even from 1920.
>are they really that stupid
Yes. But that's beside the point. They are fanatics, not just in religious sense, one can't try understand them as if they were reasonable and rational people. To be honest noone is, but it's true to them squared.
They very well understand it that they are the outnumbered and outgunned. They understand it, that the Jews will level Gaza, and many Palestinians will die, and not just Hamas fighters. They think of it as martyrdom, and a price to pay.
The real question is, the price of what?
They are surely has something in mind, but will we know it? Will that be even the outcome?
Some say they want to hamper the normalization of relations between Israel and the Muslim states. And basically just before the only state which they really had a beef was Iran. Everyone else either had their own problems, felt neutral, or started a blooming... well not friendship, but working diplomatic ties (like Turkey, Azerbaijan, Saudis).
But now it's all alarm bells and whatnot.
Maybe they have other reasons.
And even if a bunch of Palestinians die, as Arafat said: their real weapon is the womb of Palestinian mothers. They can outbirth Jews. So sacrificing them isn't that high price to pay.
Also the possibility that this was instigated can't be outruled. By a foreign power or even Israel herself.
SloveniaBernd2023-10-16 17:45:30 · 3yNo. 291351reply
this arab is spitting str8 faxxx 💯
HungaryBernd2023-10-16 19:13:30 · 3yNo. 291361reply
Sounds like Balkanites talking about each other.
ArgentinaBernd2023-10-16 20:55:19 · 3yNo. 291375reply
I know the conflict has been going on for ages, but apart from the occasional clashes along the border this is hamas' first all out war against Israel and they've fucked it up before they've even started
>also
Poltards like to throw shit at Israel, but Iran is way worse.... Did you know they bombed an embassy in my country in the 90's? And I mention them because it's obvious they are behind this, hezbollah and hamas are basically iranian assets. To give you an idea, they are like a Wagner pmc for Russia or a Blackwater for the United States.
 
Well, that explains a lot
HungaryBernd2023-10-18 09:57:52 · 3yNo. 291491reply
>all out war
I don't see how you came to this conclusion.
It was a large volume rocket strike, then raids on foot (on gliders, via tunnels, boats, bikes...), with the intent of kidnap some people, and murder some more. They probably had target lists of key people in the neighbouring areas, and hit them.
WillyOAM has a video about an attack on a town, where the Hamas entered houses to kidnap and/or murder people, this particular story is about a police officer who does not strike me as a traffic cop type. It might not be a coincidence one of the families targeted was his:
https://invidious.protokolla.fi/watch?v=8sxgvj5GlMg
Besides these minor targets (among them military ones) and some killings that seem random, the whole thing looks more like a provocation. How Alex of Historylegends put it: it's like on a football game when the player behind you continuously pushing you, nudging, poking, provoking you to make you feel "enough" and strike back committing a foul.
This is not a war, wasn't a war behalf of the Hamas. I can't even imagine what do you expect. Building fortifications in the areas they raided into and hold the line? Occupying territories, annexing half of Israel or what?
>Iran is way worse
Iran has way worse press in the West than Israel.
What I wrote about hampering the normalization, this could cover Iran's goal however.
>they are like a Wagner pmc for Russia or a Blackwater
Somewhat but not really. Hamas and Hezbollah are ethnically and religiously motivated movements and parties, committed to armed fighting. They accept training, equipment and money basically form anyone who is willing to support them. Iran is such ofc. They also gain experience in participating in conflicts elsewhere, like Syria. Without fighting you won't know how to fight.
Wagner and Blackwater also has quite the differences, but that's another topic
>Did you know they bombed an embassy in my country in the 90's?
What I heard that Hezbollah bombed a synagogue and Iran was blamed, but apparently Iran had no reason.
Iran will be blamed for everything, and not without a good reason. But in the Middle East you'll never know who finances who, who hires who really. Too much meddling. I read a bit about Turkey's political life and I found it is riddled with paranoia and conspiracies and theories about conspiracies. There's a reason for that. Small guys will always be tools of the bigger ones.
Also I'm sure Argentina above of taking armed action against another country...
HungaryBernd2023-10-18 12:57:32 · 3yNo. 291506reply
Probably what will not get through from my point is this: Hamas and Hezbollah might act as proxy for Iran, but not exclusively so. They can act on their own, or in coordination with others, or motivated by others.
SloveniaBernd2023-10-19 19:56:22 · 3yNo. 291650reply
SloveniaBernd2023-10-20 00:13:28 · 3yNo. 291672reply
HungaryBernd2023-10-20 06:09:31 · 3yNo. 291680reply
Yes, it's one war actually. Israel has to strike Russia and NATO has to enter, make WWIII now. Best idea ever.
Those who are actual participants in the conflict I understand, they can and will be riled up. But everyone else sputtering the hawkish tunes are 69 IQ retards.
SloveniaBernd2023-10-20 11:15:12 · 3yNo. 291702reply
I'm expecting something more in line with, Mossad operatives assassinating Russian diplomats.
HungaryBernd2023-10-20 13:11:50 · 3yNo. 291707reply
Apparently Mossad can't tell if literal retards >>291264 will attack their country or not. I'm not sure about those assassinations.
AzerbaijanBernd2023-10-20 13:16:50 · 3yNo. 291708reply
NetherlandsBernd2023-10-20 19:01:17 · 3yNo. 291721reply
Or they can tell but decided not to intervene for some reason. Just sayin'.
HungaryBernd2023-10-20 19:46:48 · 3yNo. 291723reply
Someone had to say it.
RussiaBernd2023-11-01 11:23:36 · 3yNo. 292649reply
I have a guestion. Why Israel was created on the land of Palestine while there were no Jews for few thousands years while there were a lot of Jews in Germany. Why they didn't replace the Germans with Jews instead? Palestinians had no guilt that Germans tried to kill the Jews and now Jews kill the Palestinians like Germans killed the Jews.
NetherlandsBernd2023-11-01 12:37:30 · 3yNo. 292651reply
> Why
Because Brits said so.
And then ran away when things got violent.
> Jews kill the Palestinians like Germans killed the Jews
Well, that's bullshit and you know it. About two million of Palestinians, mostly descendands of Arabs who decided to stay in 1948 live in Israel proper today and nobody's killing them. Israel just don't care (and never cared) about the collateral damage.
RussiaBernd2023-11-01 13:17:21 · 3yNo. 292653reply
>collateral damage
Yeah, that absolutely justifies them
NetherlandsBernd2023-11-01 13:25:10 · 3yNo. 292654reply
So to you everything is either 'absolutely justified' or 'Germans killing the Jews', gotcha.
SloveniaBernd2023-11-01 14:13:38 · 3yNo. 292655reply
>on the land of Palestine while there were no Jews for few thousands years
that's not true tho
let's look at ottoman census figures for example (pic 2 is 1914 census, I shouldn't've cropped that out)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)#Late_Ottoman_period
RussiaBernd2023-11-02 04:30:06 · 3yNo. 292698reply
SloveniaBernd2023-11-04 12:38:18 · 3yNo. 292920reply
RussiaBernd2023-11-04 15:35:12 · 3yNo. 292936reply
look, another patriot of Israel there
SloveniaBernd2023-11-04 21:04:58 · 3yNo. 292952reply
im jew
United StatesBernd2023-11-04 23:26:00 · 3yNo. 292957reply
I don't think anyone cares about anything anymore. Everyone is just killing each other for shits and giggles. For fun!
 
Everyone is faking everything.
 
So fake.
 
It's really starting to sink in that even religious people have an inherent understanding of this and it is because of this that they continue to kill each other.
HungaryBernd2023-11-05 07:36:49 · 3yNo. 292984reply
Looks like they're having fun with Uncle Ali and the 40 thieves.
SloveniaBernd2023-11-07 20:00:45 · 3yNo. 293123reply
RussiaBernd2023-11-08 18:35:03 · 3yNo. 293180reply
HungaryBernd2023-11-08 19:46:21 · 3yNo. 293186reply
They could probably jam a tunnel with that.
 
Basedbahu Basedbar
They also double attack sometimes, two troopers with two rpgs shooting the same target, to counter reactive armor.
Btw in all the videos I've ever seen when they fire with assault rifles they all shoot high. They point higher than the horizon to begin with, and then the recoil pushes the barrel higher and higher. Sure some cases they might target targets on elevation, but not all the time.
SloveniaBernd2023-12-02 14:18:52 · 3yNo. 295168reply
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