I have NEVER lifted.
Do you lift?
>All you need to do to get big is really heavy compound movements until you cant do them anymore.
I did this for a period of time and while I was able to lift heavier than before I had no progress in the appearance of the muscles, I also got no pump from the exercises after a while. I was lifting heavy, I even surpassed my own bodyweight but it really didn't feel like I was getting any bigger.
That versus lifting weights, I got pumped everytime I lifted weights rather than using machines, I'm going to keep working out later on when I am under conditions that allow for it.
Pump means everything to someone who is looking for visible muscle mass.
The way I was getting stronger was similar to how a powerlifter gets stronger, I would need to lift insanely much and eat a lot in order for me to gain significant mass in that situation. I don't want to be a powerlifter, I want visible muscles that don't necessarily make me that much stronger, and for that a pump is essential. I don't care much for functional strength, I am looking for visible muscles and for that stuff like curls and other weights exercises are necessary. I aim for being lean but muscular, not powerlifter body.
>Pump means everything to someone who is looking for visible muscle mass.
It's don't. Here is some random article from google about pump training vs strength training.
>https://legionathletics.com/muscle-pump/#:~:text=As%20you%20know%2C%20pump%20training,more%20muscle%20growth%20over%20time.
The essence is that strength training is just more efficient than pump training because it takes less time
>I would need to lift insanely much and eat a lot in order for me to gain significant mass in that situation.
Muscles are made of something and If you want to gain muscle you have to eat a lot. There is no difference in the style of training. Look at bodybuilding videos on youtube - they are mostly about eating. Training is secondary. Maybe even tertiary after the drugs they take.
>fitness influences take those drugs because they dumb :DDDDD
You can't get shredded without roiderinos and you can't compete for clicks if you are not shredded. If you make a living with your body you have no chance without roids.
Even top bodybuilders can't lift more than 4-5 hours a day. So training is more like a part time job for them. I doubt that training does make such ans difference in the top level. It's more about the drug cocktails they get and how sneaky they can inject their synthol.
>Even top bodybuilders can't lift more than 4-5 hours a day. So training is more like a part time job for them.
That's still a lot of time to me.
Every time I see someone who is shredded I can't help but think about the amount of time they invested in looking the way that they do, there could have been so much more different things they spent their time doing instead of working out that I sometimes wonder if it is even worth it to become that shredded.
Maybe I am just weak willed, but it feels like overkill to me.
>That's still a lot of time to me.
If you can make a living out of it it is half the time that an average wageslave has to spend.
>I sometimes wonder if it is even worth it to become that shredded.
There are no upsides to being shredded if you can't earn money from it. It's bad for your health, expensive, and takes a lot of time. Also you have to poop several times a day because you have to eat so much.
You might get better results per workout but it will of course take way more time.
Imho lifting is more about consistency than about getting as strong as possible in a short amount of time as possible. So it's preferable to do things that makes it easier to consistently lift than to do 8h arms workouts.
It's not really relevant if your get all your Noobgains in 6 months or 9 months.
