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GermanyBernd2022-04-26 22:43:06 · 4yNo. 147212reply
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Ukraine will soon receive German "Gepard" anti-air tanks.
 
It was in (West-)German service from 1976 to 2012 and can shred all kinds of planes, helicopters and drones. It would also be devastating against infantry and non-armored vehicles. Tanks probably can't be destroyed, but severly damaged and rendered ineffective by it if the need arises. Possible problems are ammo availability, it needs to be reloaded from the outside and it's unclear how effectively it can be used by Ukrainians with limited training and with Russians possibly being able to detect its radar.
 
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TurkeyBernd2022-04-26 22:53:39 · 4yNo. 147215reply
yeah sure bullets are effective against modern aircrafts.
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GermanyBernd2022-04-26 23:00:52 · 4yNo. 147216reply
>modern aircrafts
Well, Ukraine is fighting against Russia who rolls up with Mosin Nagants, T-72s and SU-25s.
I'm pretty sure an anti-air tank in service until 2012 is effective against a plane build in 1975.
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TurkeyBernd2022-04-26 23:02:48 · 4yNo. 147217reply
yeah russian army main aircraft is mig-3, i know got you.
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GermanyBernd2022-04-26 23:04:01 · 4yNo. 147218reply
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This thing?
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TurkeyBernd2022-04-26 23:05:17 · 4yNo. 147219reply
it was sarcasm
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GermanyBernd2022-04-26 23:06:06 · 4yNo. 147220reply
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These are the Russian aircrafts the Ukrainians have so far managed to shoot out of the sky. I think the Gepard will do fine against these sorts of things.
 
My guess was 50% sarcasm and 50% I'm not aware of a never plane with the same name.
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TurkeyBernd2022-04-26 23:08:01 · 4yNo. 147221reply
you one of those who believe in ukrainian claims?
you also believe they destroyed over 2k tanks right?
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GermanyBernd2022-04-26 23:11:35 · 4yNo. 147222reply
These >>147220 losses aren't Ukrainian claims. They are reported by Oryx, independent military analysts.
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SloveniaBernd2022-04-26 23:12:06 · 4yNo. 147223reply
Nobody claims "over 2k tanks", Ukrainian army claims 918 destroyed Russian tanks, and factually speaking, 571 Russian tank losses are confirmed with a photo.
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TurkeyBernd2022-04-26 23:12:17 · 4yNo. 147224reply
and what methodology they used to gather that intel?
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TurkeyBernd2022-04-26 23:12:34 · 4yNo. 147225reply
proofs?
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SloveniaBernd2022-04-26 23:12:46 · 4yNo. 147226reply
Photo evidence.
Every single loss listed on oryx links to a photo confirmation.
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TurkeyBernd2022-04-26 23:13:27 · 4yNo. 147227reply
i've seen hundreds of ukrainian photos and videos form arma 3.
very solid evidence indeed.
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GermanyBernd2022-04-26 23:14:40 · 4yNo. 147228reply
It's widely used as a credible source. If you have criticism of it, I need you to show me more than just your retarded rooster cries for proofs.
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SloveniaBernd2022-04-26 23:15:06 · 4yNo. 147229reply
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If you've only looked at Russian propaganda, of course you will never see factual photos of lost Russian tanks)))))
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TurkeyBernd2022-04-26 23:16:26 · 4yNo. 147231reply
3 of those are clearly ukrainian, 1 is unknown
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SloveniaBernd2022-04-26 23:16:45 · 4yNo. 147232reply
Then how did Ukraine lose more tanks than they have?
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GermanyBernd2022-04-26 23:16:55 · 4yNo. 147233reply
Come on, don't pretend to be more retarded than you are.
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TurkeyBernd2022-04-26 23:18:12 · 4yNo. 147234reply
that picture you posted has wrong translation, russian claim was it destroyed armored vehicles which include tanks and other armored vehicles.
russia claims it destroyed ~2k of those.
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GermanyBernd2022-04-26 23:19:06 · 4yNo. 147235reply
I've been plotting Russian loss rates based on estimates supplied by the Ukraine Armed Forces, there is a massive spike in Russian tank losses in the last day, are things starting to heat up on the front lines.png
I've been plotting Russian loss rates based on estimates supplied by the Ukraine Armed Forces, there is a massive spike in Russian tank losses in the last day, are things starting to heat up on the front lines
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Here are some Ukrainian claims for your viewing pleasure.
 
And here https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html are Oryx claims. 571 tanks total.
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SloveniaBernd2022-04-26 23:19:11 · 4yNo. 147236reply
>that picture you posted
Are you a bot? Nobdoy posted any such picture.
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TurkeyBernd2022-04-26 23:20:21 · 4yNo. 147237reply
in other thread you've posted some bullshit twitter post about ~140% something tanks destroyed according to russian sources.
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SloveniaBernd2022-04-26 23:22:03 · 4yNo. 147238reply
Not my fault that Russian sources keep making up Ukrainian losses until they amount to more than the amount of equipment Ukrainian army has.
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GermanyBernd2022-04-26 23:23:17 · 4yNo. 147239reply
Captured Russian hardware is being deployed by the Ukrainian forces in bigger and bigger volumes - here we see a T-72AV and a very modern T-80BVM tanks, both previously captured from the Russian army..jpg
Captured Russian hardware is being deployed by the Ukrainian forces in bigger and bigger volumes - here we see a T-72AV and a very modern T-80BVM tanks, both previously captured from the Russian army.
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Well, now some tanks can be lost twice if Orcs manage to fight their own gear ;^)
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TurkeyBernd2022-04-26 23:23:23 · 4yNo. 147240reply
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SloveniaBernd2022-04-26 23:28:23 · 4yNo. 147241reply
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Was it this one, from a month ago?
Or another one?
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TurkeyBernd2022-04-26 23:28:32 · 4yNo. 147242reply
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that filename doesnt make it real.
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TurkeyBernd2022-04-26 23:29:16 · 4yNo. 147243reply
another one, it was 100%+ and it was tanks only.
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GermanyBernd2022-04-26 23:29:34 · 4yNo. 147244reply
These tanks are fighting your fellow Orcs right now, whether you want to believe it or not :3
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SloveniaBernd2022-04-26 23:33:10 · 4yNo. 147246reply
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It was this one then.
There's two 100%+ categories (though they try to hide it by writing "only" 100%).
But I'd note that here "tanks" and "armoured vehicles" are clearly split, so no, the claim is made about tanks and only tanks.
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GermanyBernd2022-04-26 23:35:41 · 4yNo. 147247reply
Why should I care if this one guy was dishonest with numbers?
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TurkeyBernd2022-04-26 23:57:38 · 4yNo. 147249reply
This one, it got twisted in my memory: >>145196
But nevertheless as far as i know Russia has never made official claims about how many tanks it destroyed.
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SloveniaBernd2022-04-27 00:24:50 · 4yNo. 147251reply
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let me help you then: the official claim is currently 2588 (tanks and other armoured vehicles)
https://t.me/mod_russia/14779
https://t.me/mod_russia/14780
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TurkeyBernd2022-04-27 00:47:52 · 4yNo. 147253reply
help with what? i was making the same point basically.
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GermanyBernd2022-04-27 01:13:18 · 4yNo. 147255reply
What was the point? Some person somewhere claimed inflated numbers?
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RussiaBernd2022-04-27 05:52:40 · 4yNo. 147258reply
One thousand more, one thousand less..
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RussiaBernd2022-04-27 05:53:42 · 4yNo. 147259reply
I wish we nuke wect, now literally everyone sees it needs humanitarian nuking
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SloveniaBernd2022-04-27 16:05:54 · 4yNo. 147287reply
Brésiu says they will provide 300k rounds in place of 23k German rounds they aren't allowed to supply due to Swiss jewry.
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GermanyBernd2022-04-27 17:15:49 · 4yNo. 147296reply
You nuke Wect, you seize to exist. Simple as.
 
Good.
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RussiaBernd2022-04-27 18:06:11 · 4yNo. 147305reply
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Why do you send it if Russians steal them anyway. Don't you understand that you make Russian army stronger?
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RussiaBernd2022-04-27 18:07:06 · 4yNo. 147307reply
But wect seize to exist first. How can wect answer when it not exist? Silly boy.
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SloveniaBernd2022-04-27 18:21:00 · 4yNo. 147308reply
Ukraine stole so many Russian tanks that they have more tanks than at start of the war ))))
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RussiaBernd2022-04-27 18:27:27 · 4yNo. 147312reply
))))
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GermanyBernd2022-04-27 19:24:36 · 4yNo. 147320reply
A full on nuclear exchange would be more devastating to Russia than to NATO. You'd have to nuke military stations spanning all over America and Europe and then there would still be US bases and nuclear submarines all over the place. On the other hand, Russia is pretty much just Moscow, Pidorburg and make half a dozen other cities and it's completely gone.
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RussiaBernd2022-04-27 19:29:52 · 4yNo. 147322reply
>Your nukes weak, our nukes strong
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GermanyBernd2022-04-27 19:31:54 · 4yNo. 147323reply
Can you even read? I was saying that your enemies are spread out all over the globe, while you just have a hand fullcities. We only need a dozen nukes to land and Russia is done for. You need many more to destroy Europe and America.
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GermanyBernd2022-04-27 19:32:37 · 4yNo. 147324reply
...but besides, judging from the state of your other equipment I'm pretty sure half of your shit doesn't even work anymore.
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NetherlandsBernd2022-04-27 19:33:32 · 4yNo. 147325reply
Tbh Russia also has nuclear submarines and some missile bases in the middle of nowhere. But in fact today question of devastation is more about defense systems and if they're as decayed in Russia as their army that would be a question of existense to them.
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RussiaBernd2022-04-27 19:34:33 · 4yNo. 147326reply
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Same information about wectern nukes.well. soon we'll see.
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