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Yeah, plus this virus is different. Its more deadly, and also it lives not only in humans, but in the birds and mamals reservoir.
So, a lot of humans AND animals could die. Maybe entire cattle industry could perish, with meat becoming unavailable for purchase.
Poor cats and dogs, they could go out too. I'm thinking of ending things.
pandemics often happen with the most unexpected viruses (often novel viruses that we've never heard of before) btw
since the most potentially pandemic ones are already monitored
such examples are h1n1 or sars-2
if you hear it's some new shit that's spreading like crazy then it's time to get worried
otherwise it's just something we have seen before and that can be contained easily
for example ebola could never cause a pandemic because we already know that virus and we can contain it and we know how further it can reach (not much) and that won't change even if lots of mutations happen
but a novel filovirus that pops up out of nowhere can be an actual concern
Now this is actually concerning. Specially sincee this disease unlike the mad cow one can actually spread through fluids like saliva, blood, semen, sweat or urine. I heard that even through just mere contact. Also it can remain on surfaces for years and contaminate plants (that is, you can get it from eating vegetables too, not only meat). At least this is how it works on deers, if it works the same in humans we're pretty much fucked.
If it ends up working the same in humans as it does with deers I expect it to be some kind of neurodevastating AIDS. And there are probably already millions that have it on the US and are still at the incubation phase so probably it is around everywhere now. And unlike AIDS there is no actual treatment for this, much less a cure, at least with AIDS we have antiretrovirals.
With mad cow you just had to tell people to avoid meat for a while because it wasn't as easily transmissible and contagious as CWD is. But with this it just takes a couple mfs that eat infected meat to then spread it everywhere.
Most likely. Or maybe July.
But I dont think mass human spread will start until autumn or winter hits or at least gets close in the northern hemisojere (we all know things hit hard first in the North, then in the south)
By that time the virus should have mutated enough for this to happen. Plus influenza hits harder on colder weather and it might even mix up with normal flu viruses going around further increasing the death rate.
This Is actually quite scary unlike COVID since novel influenza viruses (specially avían ones) typically hit very hard and kill young and perfectly healthy people unlike coronaviruses which mostly kill old or weak people. The only scary thing about coronaviruses Is their ability to leave people crippled like how it happened with long COVID or SARS and MERS survivors. Still this Is only mostly temporally and influenza can do it too, encephalitis lethargica which Is even far more worse and causes permanent brain damage and paralysis. It happened the most during spanish flu which also caused hemorrhagic pneumonia and more crazy shit, it was the first introduction of the H1N1 virus to people, then it went extinct. You know, the swine flu of 2009 which was also H1N1 could have been as bad as the 1918 one or even worse since it was the same virus with even more virulent mutations and it has been like almost a century since the first H1N1 pandemic, but we were lucky that the same spanish flu H1N1 virus got reintroduced in the 70s due to a Soviet or Chinese lab leak when still most people did hold some degree of immunity to it so that made it way milder since there was already strong immunity to H1N1 among the population. That is why swine flu of 2009-2010 ended up being a huge nothingburger for most people but still the youngest people died.
So basically all young people are really fucked since the virus will hit the hardest the young people, even healthy ones, the Spanish flu of 1918 didnt care about that... Most of its victims were young and perfectly healthy. Typically with influenza viruses we get that the younger the patient Is the worse and the older the better since old people have stronger immunity for having lot of exposition to flu during their life having got sick many times during their life with these viruses. This could be like the exact opposite of COVID which killed mostly weak old and sick people.
Still this is a 100% novel virus we are talking about and no one has previous immunity so expect lots of old people to die too. Most people that have caught previous strains of bird flu have died and those who survived ended up very badly. 56% is the average death rate... that is over than half of the infected dead. This is going to be fun.
>the same spanish flu H1N1 virus got reintroduced in the 70s due to a Soviet or Chinese lab leak
Curiously this was almost forgotten and unknown of and barely regarded as a pandemic in human history until very recently. The Wikipedia article on it is recent and was only created because I brought attention to it by adding the pandemic to the list of epidemics index in 2021 and someone else who also edited that page researched about it and made the article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_Russian_flu
>That is why swine flu of 2009-2010 ended up being a huge nothingburger for most people but still the youngest people died.
It is to be noted that most of those deaths (between 200k and 500k according to WHO) were in Africa where the original 1918 virus (reintroduced in 1977) likely never circulated except in some places at least until the 1977 reintroduction.
The funny thing about flu and its vaccines its that they are still made using chicken eggs. Do you realize how bad that is? In case of bird flu this will wipe out poultry making it harder to mass produce the vaccine. Not only that but the fact that they are made using avian products could actually further spread the virus if these happen to get infected. The vaccine we have for bird flu so far is barely mildly effective and this is very risky. A vaccine that the pandemic will make very hard of producing, its not really effective and might actually get contaminated and further spread the infection.
