i hope nato shills are dealt with on this board at least
UKRAINE WAR THREAD 68
THE GREAT EXODUS EDITION
because why the fuck not?
It is amazing that bernds keep replying to austrian nigger when he just says whatever he feels like to generate butthurt, instead of, going here or something. Same with Ukraine balls posting their content. This really sucks that bernds are too lazy to leave that place when it is obviously anti-bernd.
I sure hope so. Although we really need to talk about what "winning" should look like. Obviously there has to be a political solution, a peace treaty of some kind. If Russia goes full retard militarily, they can keep this going for quite a while and make it even more painful than it is already, even though their advance is halted for now.
You wanted Russian sources and I'm giving you (pro-)Russian sources.
Around March 8, all of them claimed Nikolayev is surrounded. And advance on Voznesensk is confirmed with photos of destroyed Russian equipment.
Of course, you can point me at where russian dm makes announcements / updates maps and we can check there.
The war for ukraine should end. instead of violence I propose a competition for rule of the region. Both president putin and zelenskyy should appear on live television. They will get strapped down to a table and the fun will begin! From behind a curtain, two very hung transgender individuals will appear, cocks erect and ready for slav butt. They begin the buck breaking of the presidents, with the presidents trying hardest to hold back their pleasure. Whoever cums last is clearly the stronger willed and thus deserves the region. I believe this is an effective and diplomatic solution to such a crisis.
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/russia-economy-gdp-crash-ukraine-war-inflation-sanctions-energy-putin-2022-3
>Russia's economy is on track to shrink 15% in 2022 by some estimates, as the war in Ukraine and Western sanctions put huge pressure on the country.
>Putin's war is likely to wipe out 15 years of growth, and plunge Russians into economic chaos not seen since the 1990s.
...except this time it is entirely their own fault
>force fellow NATO members and the cucks to sanction Russia
>oil and stuff gets cheap
>buy it yourself cheap and win
USA first
It works, at least with anyone besides India, Brazil and China.
>In a contrasting move to its pressuring of European allies to not buy Russian oil against the backdrop of the ongoing Ukraine crisis, the US increased crude oil supplies from Russia by 43 percent, or 100,000 barrels per day, over the past week, Russian Security Council Deputy Secretary Mikhail Popov told Russian media on Sunday, with critics pointing out that the US pursues its own interests at the costs of its European allies.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1257500.shtml
>The Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) of the US Treasury published a new general license dated March 24, which effectively removed Russian mineral fertilizers from possible sanctions. They were included in the list of vital products along with agricultural products, medicines and medical products.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/us-carves-out-mechanism-for-insulating-russian-fertilizer-exports-from-sanctions/articleshow/90577961.cms
I am in no way an expert but yes I do suggest moving to some safe country that is imageboard-friendly, if it is in some western country, especially Germany, they will be coming after it sooner or later, or worse, you, with some bullshit excuse. When the board is smaller and unknown it's ok, but if it gets more traffic you can be sure it will be noticed, because there will always exist people that will report it.
In Russia they would be coming after you for some anti-Putin stuff posted, and in western hosted country they will be coming after you for some imaginary hatespeech stuff.
We have been under Russias boot since the second world war, through NATO we will finally gain independence again. Russia is a tumor that needs be cut off, it has been plaguing us for long enough. Russia is not a good neighbour, it only understands force and power. NATO will grant us that. Our "relationship" with Russia has been like an abusive relationship where the other one constantly beats and threatens the other and we just submitted to the abuse. No more of that, with NATO we can finally breath some fresh air and turn our back to the abusive Russia and take yet another step towards western civilization. We should build a wall and isolate Mordor and trade only with other EU countries.
How about forcing us to reject Marshal aid? Forcing us to give you money and items as "reparations" after you invaded our country? Making Finland dependant on Russian export and disabling its ability to compete after USSR collapsed? Filling the country with "inspectors" after the war making sure local politicans stayed in place and no elections went against USSR interests? Always threatening by moving around forces at the border to "send a message"? Non-stop illegally crossing over Finnish border with military vehicles to scare us?
Not anymore. We're done. Let's build a wall, I'll gladly pay for it and let's cut ties with your shithole forever.
Which way fugric man?
- cuck yourself to american military base, alliance which is "strictly defensive" which means you don't get any help when you're attacked but US goes raiding shitholes periodically and you have to send "peacekeeping" forces there, build wall, karjala lost forever
OR
- join common EU military policy, invade russia, help create independent ingria / st.petersburg republic, retake karjala
>How about forcing us to reject Marshal aid?
What?
>Forcing us to give you money and items as "reparations" after you invaded our country?
USSR isnt Russia, wake up my nigga, USSR collapsed 32 years ago.
>Making Finland dependant on Russian export and disabling its ability to compete after USSR collapsed?
Are you claiming Russia controls Finnish government or corporations?
>Always threatening by moving around forces at the border to "send a message"? Non-stop illegally crossing over Finnish border with military vehicles to scare us?
Threatening by moving forces on its own territory. WOW This is some crazy abuse.
Why should Russia give up anything lol? Do you even understand the term "successor state"?
>Succession of states is a theory and practice in international relations regarding successor states. A successor state is a sovereign state over a territory and populace that was previously under the sovereignty of another state. The theory has its roots in 19th-century diplomacy.
Did you knew Ukraine is also a successor state of USSR just like any other ex-USSR country?
I think USSR had less territories then Russian Empire.
More or less stale except Mariupol. I heard the entire battalion surrendered today there.
Also civillians got bombed on train station with tochka-u (ukrainian iskander) on ukraine controlled territory. Both sides blame each other. Russian arguments are tochka-u is decomissioned long ago, booster module suggests origin of launch which is on Ukraine side. Ukrainian arguments - Russians are evil.
>Ukrainian arguments - Russians are evil.
Nah, Ukrainian arguments = Russians boasted about firing missiles at Kramatorsk when attack happened, & RIA accidentally posted news of "Ukrainians firing missiles at their civilians" a little before the attack happened.
Before you agree with me, feel free to peruse attached proofs.
>https://www.5.ua/ru/obshchestvo/rya-novosty-opublykovaly-post-ob-udare-po-kramatorsku-za-5-myn-do-samoho-obstrela-foto-273866.html
>8 апреля в 10:25 в официальном Twitter издания появилось сообщение об обстреле вокзала в Краматорске.
>Однако сам обстрел, как свидетельствуют сообщения сотен очевидцев, произошел около 10:30, то есть на 5 минут позже, чем сообщили российские пропагандисты.
>10:25
>10:30
>как свидетельствуют сообщения сотен очевидцев
There are no proofs, only claims.
>so was transfer of Crimea under Ukraine
Nobody ever claimed otherwise. Crimea made a choice according to self-determination internation law after coup de etat when their elected president got overthrown.
>Elected president clearly lost public support.
Who gives a shit? There are laws, so dont refer to them when you breaking them yourself.
>if they speak Russian they must surely love being part of kleptocratic totalitarian state!
1) They're ethnic Russians.
2) Wect is way more kleptocratic totalitarian state then Russia as we all can see very well now. Ukraine is even worse, its absolute bottom.
>In case you're really this stupid, there's no law saying that referendum must not be forced to be valid.
>That's just common sense.
Who said there are laws about referendum?
I've stated that as an example, maybe stupid one is you if you take every word literally?
>And yes, if laws are unjust (such as Russian laws), it's correct to break them.
Which laws and why are they unjust?
Just trying to present an anternative point of view to this blatant stream of fake shit and hipocricy.
I'm not really supporting it.
This war is disaster for the entire continent, crapitalist pigs need it to blame for economical failure their shitty system is.
Last couple years it was pandemic, now it seems like it's not enough anymore.
And as always the only side who benefits from it is USA which is ultimately behind orchestrating and fueling the entire conflict.
But this time they might actually get fucked by China if China play their cards well.
Because It's real my nigga, take a look at what NSDAP was doing with their political opponents: murders/terror/impunity, exactly the same shit is going on Ukraine right now.
And nazis are real they're backbone of the regime, doing all the dirty job.
Every major city with predominant ethnical Russian population has nazi camps/bases in it(azov, tornado, aidar etc...), almost all of them was moved there after 2014.
What's Russia alt-left?
>Lenin would root for the other team
I dont think so, this is an imperialistic war according to Lenin. He would not root for either side that's for sure.
Finnish neutrality was rewarded by being a target to be drowned by nukes by both sides during the Cold War-era, and nothing has changed geopolitically since. So in a possible event where NATO and Russia would collide and Finland remained neutral, Finland would still nuked by Russia.
We have nothing to lose by joining the NATO side, we have only to gain.
just look at how we are clustered, one stands out, can you guess which? As far as I am concerned they deserved to be glassed by both sides too, autistic screeching retards with zero social skills and permanent bad mood.
>I am not even russian but had autistic fingoloids hate me just because I have a slavic accent
nuke em lol who cares
Sweden and Finland not joining NATO implied importance of developing non-NATO foreign politics of Europe, likely within the scope of EU.
Sweden and Finland joining NATO prolongs spiritual slavery of Europe to US hegemony, which in turn weakens Europe.
With US currently rotting away with accelerated pace, joining NATO is not only against interest of Europe to develop as its own bloc – and note, Europe truly has potential to be stronger than either America or China – but even against the interest of European countries as independent entities, as being tied to the rotting entity of US is severely weakening us.
You are extremely wrong & it is exactly people with your mentality that is the reason EU cannot grow to become better.
First of all, the EU already is a defensive alliance – there's the Lisbon Treaty Article 42(7).
Second of all, EU is toothless exactly because everyone is so reliant on NATO that nobody wants to develop EU separately.
And thirdly, tying European countries' fate to the "other western nations" whose mental health is seriously deteriorating is simply plain retarded. Let me remind you: anglos have diverged so much by now that they're a separate civilization from Europe; and with anglos in decline trying to keep ties with them is suicidal, it's on the level of not cutting away a cancerous growth.
It's simple, there is a line between us and Russia. Russia is allowed to keep their side strong and protected, and so should we. For some reason Russia goes insane when we want to build up a reliable defence. There should be no problem as long as Russia is not planning to invade, so their reaction tells you a lot about their plans and way of thinking. They should be allowed to easily invade and expand easily, but if you want to block that, it's by some twisted logic hostile towards them.
That's crazy. Getting too confident and hanging around open areas like a road where and continue hanging around when you see tanks in the middle of a war is not the good idea. What made them get caught this much off guard? As earlier said here, I also doubt someone friendly drives that close and opens fire
>Russia doesn't want to cause harm to civilians of a brotherly nation.
Lies. They're committing a genocide and every war crime in the book, including shelling hospitals and have openly called for a genocide of Ukrainians in state-controlled media.
Why are you even bothering with these obvious lies? Nobody will ever again believe a word coming out of a Russian mouth.
Only the one sitting in the middle look slightly like a female from the front, but when you see the face from the side view it looks very male, it is the only one that looks questionable. The two others look definitely like slavic males.
No cameras seen on anyone, holding either rifles or some other object.
The story about this being a group of instagram thots is unfortunately ghost if Kyiv-tier.
