1,38€ for one portion, that is almost as cheap as bread.
this is what i eat bitches.
raw plants. i prepare it by shredding and blending a bunch of vegetables, fruits, nuts, spices and filling everything in glasses and i store them in the fridge until i eat them. whenever i want to eat a portion, i just dump a glass in a bowl and stir, i also like to put more stuff on top.
currently eating the first portion (lower half of the picture) with half an avocado on top.
spreadsheet incoming.
7 of the 9 glasses left.
>Why not use your teeth?
i do use my teeth bitch. when i prepare in batches i like to shred using a mandolin instead of cutting everything because i can shred directly into bowls, which makes it very convenient to prepare these batches. when i cook this organized then i make something like that once or twice per week and it takes like 2 hours including cleanup.
also i like to blend because how else do you turn raw tomato and bell pepper (OH SNAP I FORGOT TO PUT THE BELL PEPPERS IN THE SPREADSHEET, version 2 coming up) into a sauce. you just pound vegetables with a mortar until it is a paste? no you use a blender like a 21th century human you silly pretender. well you probably just take a glass with industrially made tomato sauce out of the cupboard and heat it. usually the heating of tomatoes is a foolish thing to do because it kills all the enzymes that die when it gets warmer then 45°C but of course your industrial pasta sauce was dead when you bought it.
this is why i call you bitch and why i go through all the trouble of making tomato sauce from actual raw tomatoes: my sauce is still alive. it now gradually dies a little bit in the refrigerator but will still be mostly alive until i have eaten all the glasses.
>The quality of your food is determined by the quality of your poops. Does your diet provide solid, thick poopas that leave your ass in one piece while pleasantly stimulating your prostate as they go? If yes, you're doing it right. If not, there's space for improvement.
wise words. pooping is never a problem on a raw plant diet. no constipation, no discomfort, very little wiping, hardly any smell.
when i don't eat and only drink fresh centrifuged watermelon juice for weeks, then my poop stops being brown and becomes pink like the watermelon. well that's not surprising because watermelon digests exceptionally quick. it sprints through the body. when i drink watermelon juice too quickly i have to lay down and huff and puff to increase my breathing to endure this rapid digestions which otherwise feels discomfort with a low rate of breathing.
when all i eat are raw vegetable meals like that (where i really do not eat ANY bread or anything industrial or from a can, just pure living plants all day every day) my poop stops smelling like shit. i shit you not (pun intended). i never did it but i always laugh at the idea that if i was in this state i could stand next to someone and let out a big but silent fart. that person would never even think that what he is smelling is a fart, it would not occur. it just doesn't smell like shit, it smells like someone is cooking vegetable soup. that person would say something like "oh yummi, someone is making minestrone! smells delicious makes my mouth water, maybe i can get some!"
if you think gaslighting people is fun and worth your time you are probably ugly. good looking people just don't have to resort to playing theater and acting that the person they are so fascinated by is crazy. if you weren't shit, people would naturally gravitate towards you and you would not have to play pathetic theater. gaslighting that is an activity for people who have been universally rejected. it is like begging to be noticed.
>meat eaters being mad because they could never ever
they spend what little energy they have on hating something superior they have never given a genuine chance and then they go back to being exhausted and complain how they are tired all the time.
that looks like it would require quite the effort to digest. rice at least i think is better then bread (unless it is the sticky kind), avocado is nice for getting some fat into the body, even better then nuts i think. i can't even tell if this is meat or fish or haribo.
>This can’t be healthy
based on what though. i've eaten nothing but stuff like that for months (as in nothing but glasses like that filled with vegetable shredding and literally nothing else for months), no protein in half a decade and if given the choice to be me or a normie like you i would rather be me. people come in my threads and try to sell me their life which i have already tried and rejected.
> public health insurance on the netherlands
> goedemorgen meneer physician, I feel so tired, what should I do?
< do more walkings and drink more waters
> b-but can I have ans blood screening aub?
< why? you look healthy
< and look at my watch, it's ans lunch break already so I gotta go
Also they work like two days a week 8AM-10AM and you have to wait a week or so to get an appointment.
>when i don't eat and only drink fresh centrifuged watermelon juice for weeks, then my poop stops being brown and becomes pink like the watermelon. well that's not surprising because watermelon digests exceptionally quick. it sprints through the body. when i drink watermelon juice too quickly i have to lay down and huff and puff to increase my breathing to endure this rapid digestions which otherwise feels discomfort with a low rate of breathing.
watermelon juice has about the same amount of calories as coler. Basically just sugar and water. Coler also digests very quick because simple sugars are easily absorbed by the body. But noone would assume that this is healthy.
You discomfort is just your bloodsugar spiking after you've flooded your body with sugar.
>do you enjoy the taste?
yeah. i put lots of spices and little stuff like dried tomatos into the sauce. i'd say this wasn't a spectacular batch. sometimes i make more luxurious versions where i bother to make kardamom tea and put more nuts and more spices in and a mixture of different kinds of cabbage and more different vegetables. also this time i put no fresh chopped herbs in, usually i like to put lots of cilantro in it.
i do like the taste but what i like more is the effect. my body very much started to evolve around this. my senses are heightend (which is both blessing and curse. most people smell so bad but they can't even sense it because ability to smell very much requires clean sinuses, which most people do not have), i am never tired, my sleep is deep and restful, moving around is effortless, i don't stink, i don't get sick, i don't get desperate and needy. this is very much sustainable.
i also have phases where i am lazy and smoke weed and play video games (not during summer though, i noticed it is smart to save that for winter) but currently while i eat this clean i am out every day having adventure, being active, skating, sweating. these active phases are essential to survive the winter in high spirits.
the only downside i can think of is this: when i eat something that is very hot with chilli powder in it, my mouth is so innocent that it burns for a week. i am very sensitive to tat and i can't eat hot and spicey stuff anymore. i don't think this can be explained merely through lack of training of eating hot stuff. i knew this before though. though when given the choice to be able to tolerate spicey industrial food and just feeling good effortlessly while most other people are desperate rage sponges i choose to feel good easily.
>your dedication to a meat free diet is commendable
i dunno dedication makes it seem like it is such an effort but it isn't. what i do is just better then the standard diet. the pros simply outweigh the cons. after having felt the difference i look down on people who don't eat like that and i noticed people don't like to be looked down upon ESPECIALLY RIGHTFULLY SO.
i have this nice life with advantages because of it and you have this problematic difficult feel-bad life in which the doctor has to work so hard to keep you alive and you wanna talk to me about how good chicken nuggets taste. taste is not what you think it is. if you could choose between chicken nuggets or feeling how i feel, you'd choose to feel like me and interestingly you do have that choice. but you are not in the driver's seat of your life so you could make rational decisions, you are very much the co-pilot in your own life and the winds around you steers the plane. the loud advertisement or the smell of chicken nuggets is the pilot and you are sitting in the seat next to it watching the pilot steer your life.
>ask ans physician
if doctors where the authorities of health that you confuse them to be, they would do nothing but tell people to eat clean and exercise all day long. this prevents almost everything. the degree to which most health problems can be prevented would make your limited normie mind blow. it's just not necessary to get sick in almost all cases. there is usually a lot a person can do to cure or improve conditions but more importantly almost everything can be prevented.
if doctors were more then the product of their education and also if they would live in a more intelligent financially rewarding system in which they would be incentivized for people to be healthy, they would do nothing but encourage people to eat clean and exercise. those asshole doctors who want to be rich and would prefer if everyone was sick are those doctors that just quietly "treat" all the sick and use the money they earn to open ice cream parlors so that people get more sick. ice cream, pizza and chips are the most dangerous foods, cheese is genocide.
this audio file very much summarized the power of prevention.
>watermelon juice has about the same amount of calories as coler.
i still don't understand why people count calories. seems so silly to me. there is always enough calories. do you then collect your poop and measure how much calories are still in the poop? no? then why did you measure the calories in the first place when you can't even tell me how much of it your digestive tract managed to absorb.
>Basically just sugar and water. Coler also digests very quick because simple sugars are easily absorbed by the body. But noone would assume that this is healthy.
you've done a foolish thing that many generic people like you have done before: you compare a commercial product that consists of isolated chemicals and water to a naturally harmonizing plant. watermelon of course has been mutated by farmes via artificial selection etc to become what it is now but it is still a plant that for the longest time had to engage in feedback systems to coexist with other organisms. there is life in the watermelon, there are living enzymes in the watermelon there is not a white powder that was stirred into it or high fructose corn syrup but natural fructose (which by the way is what your cells evolved to mostly want to consume). you compare this grotesque for-profit idiot juice with the slightly exaggerated current water melon, that however is still a plant.
to make it more simple: the juice of a watermelon is not the same as water with color and this white powder you call sugar stirred into it. this has never been a valid comparison once yet normies like you still make it.
>You discomfort is just your bloodsugar spiking after you've flooded your body with sugar.
that's one perspective i'm not gonna deny though the perspective lacks to explain all the magic i have experienced during juice fasts. there is more going on that a simple disconnected view of blood sugar simply does not have the space to map.
you would get what you call diabetes if you tried to do this with what you believe watermelon juice to be: water with sugar in it. but that's not what fruit juice is. you are missing the magic by believing it is something that it is not. watermelon juice is not made in a factory, it grows in this weird green living organism. you do not seem to respect on bit how much alive a watermelon is.
kohler is not alive. it is dead. i don't even know if insects are that crazy about kohler. have you seen a watermelon rot? all the organisms go crazy when a watermelon is rotting. it is so much more of a spectacle then when someone spills kohler and maybe a wasp will care about it and a few ants.
have you felt it?
i think the lowest i experienced in fasting was bmi 17 or bmi 18 and that was too low. my bones were sticking out and leaning on a wall would hurt because i had no cushions anywhere.
at my heaviest i was bmi 25 and i felt like a fat pig. it was unbearable. the best i have felt was bmi 19-21. just moving becomes so effortless.
you wouldn't believe it if you had not felt it but the difference between bmi 22 and bmi 21 is so huge. it is the difference between getting up from a chair while moaning painfully AND GETTING UP FROM THE CHAIR FEELING LIKE SON GOKU!
you do assume and project an awful lot.
#sotrue !!!!! instead of consulting professionals i will only listen to autistic rants on the internet on how to be healthy and fit ... again assumptions assumptions assumptions. you dont know my doctor, nor do you know me
omg #sotrue once a carbohydrate like fructose gets put into the body it totally doesnt get converted into other chemicals #fructolysisisascam
but please do go on and educate on what carbohydrates are and how the body uses them. i am sure i can learn quite a lot from a master nutritionist like yourself
vegan secret #2: most people have blocked sinuses. once you eat the stuff you were meant to digest and nothing else (not even bread or pasta even though fools believe those are vegan) your sinuses drain of mucus and you will hear better and smell better. hearing better is only slightly annoying, having to hear what boring stuff people are being quiet about is no advantage.
having the ability to smelling better (like smell but in high definition) is such a curse. people believe they can mask their smell with putting perfume over it but that only works for standard definition blocked-sinus noses. when you have a hd nose and you smell someone trying to mask smell with perfume then you smell the original stink, the alcohol of the perfume and what the perfume tries to be. those smells are designed to be smell by standard noses and are unbearable to high definition noses. also i can smell dog poop or farts from distances you would not believe.
>do you then collect your poop and measure how much calories are still in the poop? no? then why did you measure the calories in the first place when you can't even tell me how much of it your digestive tract managed to absorb.
Is eating food your digestive tract cannot absorb efficiently some kind of a flex?
Your BMI is supposed to be 25 from muscle mass, not flab.
a professional is just someone who passed tests, endured out of touch lectures that exist to support the people working in the educational system but equip the students with nothing, endured the general torturous nature of the educational system and complies with any demand. if that's good enough for you then go ahead, that's not good enough for me. i trust people who are a bit more serious about health then doctors who are just survivors of the medical education system who do what they are told.
i guess covid taught you nothing because if you were smart it would have been all the evidence you ever needed to understand that the medical profession can not be trusted to represent your best interest. but you don't care about that, you are half asleep. you can't be bothered with all these contradictions your eyes and ears perceive, they only ruin this certainty that science and technology will save you. what idiocy.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
and because the body has all these ways to convert chemicals you think it is fine to make use of them as much as you want because consequences generally don't apply to you. bitch with that logic how come you use the breaks that were built into your car? just slow down the car by rubbing against the other cars, it will be converted into break force which will also get your car to stand still.
>eating food your digestive tract cannot absorb efficiently
that should be such an important aspect of choosing what to eat. yet many people choose on this weird bitch-training which kind of artificial food with which artificial flavour they are in the mood for.
imagine instead of choosing what fuel you put in your car based on chemistry, you'd choose based on the color of the liquid or the smell of it.
a food you were meant to digest leaves very little metabolic waste. it leaves very little trash in the body that the body then has to work to get out. the more wrong you eat, the more difficult it is to clean up. this is why fasting has such profound effects on people, it gives them a break from having to digest all this artificial sexy nonsense so the body can catch up doing stuff it did not have the capacity to do while digesting became such an important effort.
when i don't eat and only drink watermelon juice for weeks at a time, digestion is so effortless that other stuff is healing. bangers call this detox, bitches don't even believe detox is real. they always get moody when i mention detox. they always repeat the same stereotype they think detox is: they think it is the same as astrology, something for bored housewives to read about in printed magazines. have they bothered to find out if it is real? no.
doctors don't talk about detox because they want you to be as tox as possible so that you get more diseases which means they get to treat more people and get more money because of it. the doctor is financially incentivized to want people to stay alive but get sick often. lol in germany when people don't want to go to work they have to get a doctors note in many professions and then the doctor loves that and always writes everything the patient wants because he wants the patient to come back often.
>Your BMI is supposed to be 25 from muscle mass, not flab.
i can't relate to wanting to get muscles. i have a bit of muscle but it comes from being active and it is representative of the activities i like to do. just getting muscles from the gym seems so weird and artificial to me.
if you actually use those muscles because you lift stuff or chop wood or build earthships then i get it and they are representative of the activity but when i see these people who just want to be muscely to look good i get very suspicious. a person like that must not have heard the good news. maybe it is violent social stuff that i don't believe is worthwhile for a human. wanting to be tough and strong and bully others and stuff like that. show muscles.
i like to look relatively weak compared to what my body has the ability to do because that way people underestimate me.
>Yeah, for example, when on mostly carnivore LCHF diet, I only have to shit every 3-4 days, and in quite small amounts.
that's not metabolic waste you dead-fingered alcoholic. lol when i only eat fruit fresh ripe real raw fruit then i poop 3 times a day and the poops are so small. they are so tiny, seem more like they came out of a tube of tooth paste then a man's ass lol. in contrast when i eat a lot of what i eat now, my poops are gigantic and because of the cabbage the poop looks like it contains hay 😆
when all i eat is this cabbage from the glass my poop becomes scary. if i saw that poop laying around on my way home i would worry what kind of animal has gone loose here. looks more then a rhino then human poop!
metabolic waste is not poop. when your cells 'burn' whatever poor choice of food you gave it, pollution remains in the oven it burned in and your body has to try to get it out afterwards. the more idiotic your food choice, the more waste and the harder it is to remove. the logic behind it is simple. you have one system that brings the fuel to the cells, that is the blood. you have another system that removes the waste from the cells after the burning. that is the lymphatic system. (when you pop a pimple, what comes out is lymph.) that is how your body gets rid of waste. the waste is then (but only when you use your muscles) hopefully brought out (either through peeing or through sweating). most problems of the human body can be traced back to poor lymphatic health. the lymphatic system doesn't have a pump like the blood has the heart so it relies on muscle activity to 'knead' it out of the body. if it doesn't, if the lymph stays in place (stagnates) then it rots and makes you sick. this is how lack of exercise makes humans sick.
maybe i am thinking about becoming a schizoid vegan or a moderator
by the way did you know that if you eat only fruit that has freshly fallen from a tree your body, your oven, so to speak your athanor corporis will produce all the nutrients you could possibly need. even electrolytes. its true i saw it in a cryptic dream that was NOT the result of me taking copious amounts of psychoactive drugs which acompany my regular intake of amphetamine
>schizoid
i don't think using the language of psychology and psychiatry has done you puppets any favors. you seem just as dumb and desperate when you call people 'crazy' but it added this layer of distance that your attempt of weaving these gaslighty narratives was supposed to circumvent. you don't call people crazy when they say crazy things. you call people crazy when you want them to keep talking to you but you have already run out of things to say. it is conflict based interaction which is exclusively the resort of those who fail to maintain interaction through mutual interest.
"Schizo" in an imageboard environment is just a funny overexaggerated buzzword to mock somebody jokingly, don't take it so literal. I am sure you are not schizoid nor schizophrenic or anything, but you do come off a little manic or "overhyped" or something like that, somebody who is in a headrush for whatever reason. Just take it easy m98, it's mostly banter maybe some ill-tempered wording here and there fueled by someone's everyday frustration that has nothing to do with you or the topic
>but you do come off a little manic or "overhyped" or something like that, somebody who is in a headrush for whatever reason
i rediscover this every time, when i eat this clean: my body just functions better (then when i eat bread and oven fries). it has noticeably more energy and since i did live the life of a lazy man for large parts of my life i don't even know how to spend this much energy wisely.
i feel like having found much power and having to learn how to use it. i dunno if this might be a late result from decades of playing video games but currently i am so quick, i noticed i can just catch mosquitos with my hands. the last 5 mosquitos i have encountered in the last days i just grabbed out of the air first try.
>"Schizo" in an imageboard environment is just a funny overexaggerated buzzword to mock somebody jokingly, don't take it so literal
i meant what i said though. using the mental health vocabulary, even for amateur attempts at humor, only creates the distance that is the breeding ground for needlessly complicated problems when it comes to mental health and social interaction.
i keep trying to tell people that a way better approach to mental health is not the blind usage of medical diagnosis language but open communication based on the subjective experiencing of the symptoms. don't say you have rectal-inflamatory-syndrome. say your asshole burns when you take a shit. refuse to accept the distancing medical language to describe your conditions and enter an empowered world of clarity and honesty regarding your condition that tries to put you back into the driver's seat of your life instead of remaining the passive victim of obscure medical phenomena that only the doctor is the solution to.
>aren't you worried about b12 deficiency though?
nope. i don't even believe in protein and so wouldn't you if you knew how little protein is in human mother's milk. i consider the protein-heavy food as emergency food. the human can learn to digest it somewhat (though i wonder if i already lost the ability to absorb it reasonably). humans do not have the infrastructure of internal organs to do a good job of digesting protein. the stomach acid is not strong enough, the durations for sleep and digestion are too short. cats (who actually are carnivores) have the right organs for it and if organs are too complicated just look at the teeth. cats have claws and teeth to catch and kill prey and teeth to rip appart the flesh. humans might look more like this human on the picture that tried to surgically become a cat.
what i like to eat instead of protein is amino acid because i don't hate my body. if you hate your body you eat protein which then has to be broken down into amino acids all complicatedly before it can be digested. an exhausting provess leaving your body little capacity for much else. that's stupid to me, i leave this to the german retard (they/them) itt who just willie nillie likes to eat stupid shit and expects his body chemically convert everything the same way he converted his gender. i just eat the amino acid directly and my body digests without laborious complication.
>science are never scientists or intellectuals that spend their life experimenting and studying
that's not true. there are people on the fringes far more intelligent then those in the center of academia because every centralizing system would gatekeep them. those crazy inventor types like nicola tesla who are intellectually superior yet ridiculed and systematically excluded who just study the parts of science they consider useful without the obsolete orthodoxy. you just don't know them because whoever shaped you made sure to bitch train you to respect who you were supposed to respect and you complied. your arguments are trivial shit and you falter after one move. you can never defend your positions after one move because you don't understand them, your opinions are just poems to you that you recite. your brain is just a collection of other people's opinions. your body is nothing but a pajama that you wear.
3 glasses left
see how clean the pores are after the pimples are yanked out? that's how mine look all the time.
that's metabolic waste btw that the body tries to get out via lymphatic system. basically cheese residue. ice cream residue. but it is too gooey and there is not enough muscle activity and perspiration for them to make it through the skin so they are just stagnant and stay in the body until they become hard and start to rot.
large parts of what common fools believe to be aging is merely poor lymphatic health. look at your nose, look at your tongue, check for dandruff, check how bad you smell and how long it takes after a shower until you stink again, check your pee, check your poo. there are so many clues.
you have taken so much from this thread and given so little. you have proven yourself to be a bad investment and you have the audacity to ask for more. instead of ordering you should be offering. you should be less worried about what information you can extract from this thread and more worried about what interesting things you could tell. you have not said a single interesting thing. your debt in this thread runs deep. your inferiority is so apparent that calling you an adult would be insulting to the other adults in the room. why would i waste any time even talking to you. when i want to hear the generic inherited opinions that you copied from other people i just talk to chat gpt.
unfortunately your request could not be considered because of a poor credit rating.
2 glasses left. i would eat at least one more today but i save the last two for tomorrow. i underestimated how much i would eat i guess. i very much depleted my reserves during the week and had big appetite on the weekend. no gigantic poop so far but that stuff doesn't digest as fast as fruit.
fruit sometimes digests as fast as within one hour in an exceptionally clean body.
0 glasses left, i just ate the last two. i could have eaten a bit more today but other then that a 2kg cabbage made into 9 glasses seems like a good amount to eat good for a weekend without paying much money.
seems like i'm gonna do this more often so i should probably look into buying a food processor that can shred the cabbage quicker. probably takes me 20 minutes to shred it by hand.
>You have some strange attractions to cabbages, sir. I can see why the British calls you sauerkraut.
i can't eat what they call sauerkraut, makes me wanna vomit. but back in my pre-vegan days i did enjoy coleslaw as a side dish. i don't see why that's strange but i understand many people are on the spectrum and have difficulties talking and they default to play theater.
i've been eating too much bread and a bit too much rice. i step into the aldi and wonder what fruit and vegetables to eat and everything was so expensive. cabbage was the ideal choice for batch cooking. cheap, lots of fiber, mild in taste, crunchy, easy to work with.
the other day i batch-made fruit ice cream from banana, mango, blueberry and Johannisbeere. Mango is very annoying. Mango has to be peeled with a knife first (i use a potato peeler) then mango has a big annoying pit in the middle so involves lots of precision surgery. peeling 40-60 bananas is also annoying and bananas are very time sensitive, because i let them ripen till they get the first black spots. Sometimes i buy bananas and let them lay around for a week until they are ripe. (sometimes i buy avocado and put them in the fridge and they take weeks to ripen.)
cabbage is so easy in comparison: just take of the 2 outer leaves and shred it. no complicated laborious peel, no seed, no precision surgery. it's like cabbage wants you to eat it while mango wants you to be it's employee and banana wants you to be an unpaid intern.
>deficiency
i've been doing this for years and i don't feel deficient. eating lots of fiber is good for me because often i eat only fruit or i drink just fresh juice. fruit is what the human digests best. it is the ultimate human food, scrubs still have not caught up to this. vegetables are mostly ok, minor amounts of nuts and seeds are also ok. one of the things about fruit that yall incels have not caught up to is electricity.
you remember these experiments where people hook up wires to a lemon and then make a small light emitter shine thus proving how electrical a lemon is? lemon is a fruit. fruit are basically batteries. the juicy ripe fruits fill up your electrical reservoirs.
i hear you 95 percenters always talk about your macro nutrients. always worried about carbs, protein and fat. but i never heard you worry about electricity. probably because nobody has made it obvious to yall involuntary celibate gentlemen that your nervous system runs electricity.
they say it takes more muscles to frown then to smile but i think that's an irrelevant perspective because lack of ability to use the muscles is rarely a problem. what is a problem though is lack of electricity because smiling is a nervous system state that consumes more electricity then the state of resistance. not only is this something considerable from a psychological perspective, meaning attitude. there is also the consideration of the electricity your nervous system has.
what if electricity is a currency in your body and you don't give your body any and thus your nervous system is starving, limiting the expression of your nervous system?
i've been drinking 12 bottles of beer a day for eight years and i don't feel like an alcoholic. drinking lots of beer is good for me because often i only drink spirits when i am with friends. those friends arent alcoholics either.
you remember these tv shows where they show you people with yellow eyes and yellow fingertips and they say its because they drink a lot of beer. they say those guys have a fatty liver or something but that isnt true its all lies. i dont eat anything with fat because i dont believe in fat. so instead i eat triglycerides because they are way healthier but your doctors wont tell you about that because that will cut into their profits.
I'm pretty sure this diet is protein deficient.
Eating 8 meals of it is unlikely to be a problem, but if you eat this for weeks then your body will start breaking down your brain and muscles for protein.
It's also probably a pretty step caloric deficit, but depending on your body fat content that's unlikely to be an issue for months.
Some eggs or cottage cheese would be a cheap healthy source of protein for you.
>yellow eyes and yellow fingertips and they say its because they drink a lot of beer. they say those guys have a fatty liver or something but that isnt true its all lies.
i do kind of believe alcoholics are heading towards yellow fingered future. not necessarily because of the alcohol but of the standard diet that i expect an alcoholic to have.
>i dont eat anything with fat because i dont believe in fat.
i can't say i heard that before. i heard stories though of people who had their throat fucked up and couldn't eat normally anymore and they would just always rub themselves with olive oil and legend says that the body learned to drink the olive oil through the skin and use it as nutirents and whoever that was didn't starve despite no longer using normal digestion.
have you noticed anything in you that is odd that you suspect is because of the lack of fat? i don't know about the fatty liver but i do know that i did the famous liver gallbladder flush and i shat out quite a lot of green stones (see picture attached. those weren't mine but mine were similar enough). i wanted to know whether this is real and it is. i fished the stones out of the toilet with a plastic fork. i do a lot for my health though. if i have a liver foll of stones, i wonder how many more stones a unconscious normie has.
my teeth are on the way out i think. if i had access to ancestor quality fruit and made a few less bad medical bets with them and knew better before they might last 40 more years but currently i think they might only last 10 or 20 more years. i'm not going the implant and oral surgery route though. i get the old fashioned dentures.
Hm hm, no. Anyways I been eating salad and oats because supposedly fiber helps cholesterol, but "healthy" makes 0 sense to me because the salad is basically a sandwich with no breads.
"healthy" to most people means "not Burger King" but really I think it means "no animal products" and that just ain't happening. Cardio is a pain in the ass but I will have to start doing that.
>the salad is basically a sandwich with no breads.
lol oink. salad just means raw vegetables, don't ask me why they insist on on leaves so much. there are plenty of vegetables to choose from.
i guess you don't care that bread is dead and that tomato and cucumber are alive. they have seeds in them that can be planted in the ground. same with potato and sweet potato.
I just ate salad with chasews, ham and gorgonzola crumbles. I think you are supposed to not eat nuts either. Eating just salad leafs by itself and oats sounds miserable. So my dialectic =
-elevated cholesterol
-cholesterol tasty
= I stop eating sugar and McD and will exercise
I am a almost-27 yo virgin so it's small progress nonetheless.
>Eating just salad leafs by itself and oats sounds miserable.
well you don't cold turkey. don't try to shift into reverse while speeding on the highway, instead find gentle ways to introduce more of the healthy stuff into your diet.
when you like to snack, instead of eating chips or candy, JUST ONCE slice a cucumber and dip it into something light like salsa or ketchup or refried beans or hummus.
when you do that you notice that this wasn't as bad and you can try a similar small step.
the way i did it was with sandwiches. right around your age. i liked salami with pepper on white bread. piece by piece i made the sandwiches less horrible:
>added more vegetables
>took off some of the meat
>switched to more grainy bread.
by the end it was basically nothing but vegetables between two crackers.
>I am a almost-27 yo virgin so it's small progress nonetheless.
meeting women becomes significantly easier for a man in his 30s who didn't degenerate completely.
>DOMS
>Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS) is the pain and stiffness felt in muscles after unaccustomed or strenuous exercise, typically 24 to 72 hours after the exercise
that just means you are a habitual overdoer, learn your limits hulk xD
when you go running the first time you should basically do a brisk 10 minute walk and let your body digest it before trying 15 minutes the next time.
i wish you the patience to progress in baby steps (which at your age must feel very annoying) and belief in your ability despite all obstacles!
currently eating bread with peanutbutter and some tomato, cucumber, bell pepper. and i bought some cucumber and kohlrabi from a small unmanned farming kiosk that can be found at the side of the road where the money is just thrown into a little box.
bread sucks, though i bought at some local village bakery that survived. had poppy seed breadroll and sesame breadroll. those were nice, very chewy. the discount supermarket bread i usually buy almost melts in the mouth in comparison.
bread sucks, i can feel my sinuses clogging up and my ability to smell decrease, just from 2 days of bread.
you must have quite a lot of trust in the food industry to eat sausage since they could just throw anything in there.
i was in this horrible german tourist trap a few hours ago and sausage was one of the things they try to get rich with at the tourist trap: sausage, beer, bread, cake, ice cream.
lol this makes me feel dishonorable that i too eat stuff that is on this list. you probably eat the entire list
What do you think about eggs?
there is a reason when you fry an egg in a pan that you first put a layer of fat in (or use some technologically advanced pan) because otherwise you will have a bad time cleaning that pan. maybe everyone who eats eggs (despite evidence to the contrarcy) also believes that the human insides are made out of a non stick material.
i'd say this is pretty harmless. some hardcore vegans do this without fat, i often do it that way. just slowly frying them while stirring, maybe occasionally adding a splash of water.
i like to make 'pizza' with onions.
i buy premade dough that comes with lovely tomato sauce in a glass. i unroll the dough and spread the tomatoey goodness and then i put like 4 medium sized finely diced onions on top and maybe some herbs and i call that pizza. really does it for me, meaning it satisfies my pizza itch completely. the top layer onions become a bit drier and more flavor full while the lower onions become soft. nice texture. sometimes i load raw arugula leaves on top after baking.
>i buy premade dough that comes with lovely tomato sauce in a glass
You buy highly processed premade dough and tomato sauce filled with ingredients that don't belong there and are unhealthy when they are both very simple to make yourself? All you need are 5 ingredients for a decent dough (flour tipo 00, yeast, olive oil, water, salt), and the only hassle about it is that it requires some planning because you need to let it rest for at least 24 hours otherwise don't even bother, since dough that only rested a few hours and is overdosed with fresh yeast will never ever get close and is actually hard to digest and make you feel bloated and tired. And I mean maybe the kneading is some work but I personally enjoy it and you can use a machine and be done in 5-10 minutes
>you need to let it rest for at least 24 hours otherwise don't even bother,
Just make it a little wetter so it can rise easily and problems weren't. It might be better if you let it rest in the fridge overnight but the difference is not so big.
>overdosed with fresh yeast
How does the yeast know how fresh it is?
>It might be better if you let it rest in the fridge overnight but the difference is not so big
You have no idea, the yeast needs time to start working and the dough to start maturing, the more the better. The differences in flavor, texture and ratio of fluffiness to crispiness are tremendous between a dough that contains 5-10g of fresh yeast per 1kg of flour and rested for 24-48 hours and one that contains 40g per 1kg flour and rested for 2 hours. And as mentioned, not only is the taste better, more matured dough prepared with little yeast is also far more healthy and friendly to your stomach. Pro pidser makers even use less than 5g of fresh yeast.
I would bet my last drip of olive oil that you have never ever a really good homemade pidser dough.
>How does the yeast know how fresh it is?
There is fresh yeast and there is dried yeast... Fresh yeast has a shorter shelf life and you have to use around double the amount compared to dried yeast, but it provides a better taste and texture and is more suitable for doughs that are supposed to rest for longer, that's why usually for pidser you want to use fresh one. But dried works as well and I guess is more handy because you can store it for longer.
The most important thing in preparing a good dough is always TIME. You see a recipe that suggests you to use 40g of fresh yeast, stop reading.
i did this for a while. eating only fruits and vegetables and it is cheaper and healthier and i felt better. but embodying this level of health around profoundly sick people who consider pizza a food and drink beer and have no idea about the genocidal nature of ice cream and have never once questioned coffee ... these people become quite attached when they see someone who lives different.
it is something you have to have experienced or it makes absolutely no sense. you'd think the world welcomes someone who has found the key to a better life but turns out they all believe in competition and me suddenly functioning better makes them perceive themselves to be lower in social status, which opens the door to all kind of jealousy and possession based problems, especially in a big city where most people are broken and depressed and wish to be rescued. the negative emotions that are drawn out when someone considers themselves lower status to me but at the same time has to keep up socio-economic appearances of superiority results in constant nasty emotional outbursts, negativity, hate and hostility.
hard to convey in words, this is something i recommend learning about not through second hand methods like stupid debates, conversation, baiting or questions but through practical experience.
how tight the rope of normality is wrapped around you. it takes so little to bust your bubble and make you secret the accusations of insanity like a startled tropical frog. makes me think you grew up in a fallout vault and just got released. you are so thirsty to spectate and so satisfied with not participating in human life yourself and instead live through others. you are the overweight ugly gf that someone unexpectedly brought to the lan party that just sits around and wants to be entertained.
I usually use 20g for 750g of flour which is overyeasting in your opinion. I will try out less in the future but I have never seen the problem in using too much yeast.
Vegans eat pure "nutritional" yeast as a cheese substitute. There are people who prefer weissbier over normal beer due to the yeasty flavor. I feel like there is nothing wrong with the flavor of a little yeast.
I wouldn't deny that long fermentation times mean more complex flavors. But especially in a pizza that already has strong flavored ingredients from the tomatoes, the cheese, and the pepperoni I would say that fine notes in the flavor of the dough are not that important.
Official recipe of the neapolitan pizza association states nothing
>neopolitan pizza accosiation
>https://www.pizzanapoletana.org/en/ricetta_pizza_napoletana
>After the time deemed necessary to settle and rest,
>https://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/bread-recipes/neapolitan-pizza-base/
> prove for 1 hour, or until doubled in size.
>Ethan Chlebowski
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oseDv8oB5E
>8-12h
>some jewish cook from new york I think
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsBrryGATOI
>few hours until doubled in size. Longer is better
>Adam Ragusea - or the most science based youtube cook after Alton Brown
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZEGG1mb3Rc
>1-2 hours
The last one is the most interesting one. If you want small bubbles you want to put it in the fridge overnight. For a neopolitan pizza however you want big bubbles so you let it ferment for a shorter period.
Nobody gives the fermentation time as much importance as you give it. This matches my experience. Of course you can perfect everything but there is always a point of diminishing returns.
Ein jeder ist seines Glückes Schmied und HipHop ist wie Pizza auch schlecht noch echt beliebt.
>in your opinion
It's not my opinion m8, it is culinary fact. Go to an Italian restaurant and tell one of the chefs how much yeast you are using in your recipes, they will "madonna mi" you and gesticulate wildly with their hands towards you
Also literally in the link you posted:
>>https://www.pizzanapoletana.org/en/ricetta_pizza_napoletana
The following doses are based on 1 litre (1000ml) of water;:
- Water: 1 litre (1000 ml)
- Salt: 40-60 grams
- Yeast (based on temperature and humidity):
[b]Fresh beer yeast 0.1-3 grams
Mother Yeast 5-20% of flour used
Dry yeast 1/3 of fresh yeast used (1 gram of dry for 3 grams of fresh)[/b]
- Flour: 1,600/1,800 (depending on the degree of absorption).
>maybe he doesn't believe in yeast
i actually don't. i don't even eat nutritional yeast. mushrooms i don't eat either. i don't think it is smart to increase the fungal biomass in the human body. i don't eat mushrooms and ideally i don't eat fungal food like bread.
fungi try to take over the human body constantly. i was sleeping in pants for a few weeks that were trapping heat and moisture and i would always sweat on the back of my knee. AND THEN ONE DAY I FELT A SHARP PAIN AND SUDDENLY I HAD A MUSHROOM RING THERE. THE MOISTURE AND WARMTH ON THE BACK OF MY KNEE WAS ENOUGH FOR MY BODY TO BE TAKEN OVER BY MUSHROOM.
of course i didn't go to the doctor because fuck those genocidal hypocratic-oath-hipocrite covid accomplices, i stopped wearing the pants and did an insane detox. a serious naturopathic regenerative detoxification starts with a thorough herbal anti-fungal and anti parasite regiment. this worked. i think this was 2018 or 2019 and it never came back.
see how sneaky fungi are? they try to grow inside humans and those asleep ice cream and pizza eaters are full of fungus. i don't know much about fungi but i imagine they hijack human systems. surely lymphatic, maybe the blood and possibly the nervous system.
>You buy highly processed premade dough and tomato sauce
in contrast to all the other doughs that aren't highly processed? those don't exist. pizza is just bread and all bread is processed food. good pizza to me isn't that much better then average pizza. i simply do not appreciate the nuances. i am a simple dude, even what i call pizza is merely candy to me. though i appreciate you for actually delivering something you have made collected experience in from your life instead of just reacting to what is happening itt.
there is a way to make raw vegan bread but it is a bit out there. here is how you make it:
you take flax seeds and blend them until they are powder, then you throw whole tomatos in that same blender. (the flax is both the flour and the egg and the tomato adds water, taste and color. quite elaborate for 2 ingredients!) that's the dough. you don't bake the dough because that would kill it.
instead you spread the dough on thin non-stick baking paper and heat it (in the dehydrator) for 18 to 30 hours at 45°C.
>my stomach acid will kill it anyway, so why bother
i imagine human digestion more like a washing machine that self-selects an appropriate program for the load. if you eat what your body knows how to digest, it stays in the stomach for mere minutes and also does not have to add so much acid to break it down.
why bother? WHY BOTHER BECAUSE FEELING TIRED AND DEPRESSED ALL THE TIME ARE OPTIONAL STATES OF EXISTENCE THAT YOU HAVE CHOSEN THROUGH YOUR ACTIONS.
made 9 more glasses; pretty much the same ingredients as before. currently munching on the 9th portion (the one i made directly into the white bowl) i only had a small amount of sesame paste left so this is a bit too un-fatty. left a bag of cashews in the car, i think i'm adding a fist full of cashews to every glass i'm eating from now on.
hehehehehehe. nice video. basically the dude 'ate' nothing but soylent shakes for a week and made a comparison: he burned the dry soylent powder and then he burned dehydrated poop of his.
he found out (from the faulty burned calorie equals digested calorie perspective) that he only absorbed 25% of the calories. the soylent powder had 20.000 joules per gram and his poop still had enough to burn a whopping 15.000 joules per gram.
i would have loved to see the dude do it for longer because with time the body levels up experience for each food and also builds combo. meaning the absorption rate of a food increases the more a body gets it. body not only learns to dial in the digestion program perfectly but also the microbiome that survives on this food becomes increasingly more proficient at absorbing.
i wonder if after 4 days the absorption would be maybe at 25% and then after 14 days it might have grown to 30%. would have been fun to see poops from different times compared. from my own experimentation with mono diets i know there is a hump. first it feels unusual but after a few days the body has dialed in and then it is heaven. i did this with fresh fruit juices. i drank nothing but fresh watermelon juice for weeks and i call it precise manual fueling to make it sound as badass as it was.
great video, thanks so much for posting.
found this disturbing screenshot. yes excellent keep the goyim afraid of fruit. longest i spend eating absolutely nothing but fruit (completely without cheating!) was 70 days and i was thin like bmi 17 and bones starting to stick out with my face being thin. during that time i was also melonjuice fasting.
i don't think this being thin is an inevitability. i was simply not eating enough. i was doing so much detoxing and experimentation and kept myself so busy because of the increased energy that i neglected to eat enough, which of course usually isn't a problem. but while the digestion is on fruit this can spiral quite quickly! just a few days of only eating a bit and my weight suddenly dropped.
that's when i invented these salads. when i ate these salads after the 70 days you would not believe how good they tasted. like heaven. my body thirsted for this so much and i ate so many of those glasses; i pigged out on the raw vegetables. lol my digestion was so clean from the 70 days, i remember how crazy big the first poops from the salad were. as thick as my wrist almost! i continued for 50 on raw fruits and raw vegetables. so my record is 120 days on raw fruits and vegetables. alliyall asleep meat from the glass eaters wouldn't believe how good this feels. i also did lots of exercise during that time and drank ridiculous amounts of herbal healing tea.
>According to a friend of D'Art, she had only eaten durian—a spiky, mace-like fruit—and the enormous, delicious jackfruit—for the previous seven years.
damn that's radical! if only she had done that with grapes. seems like grapes are the number one food for humans. high quality ripe oranges are also crazy good but finding and affording those is very hard.
lol i automatically disregarded it because i think betting is for retards. i literally stopped reading after "taking bets", thinking it was nothing more then meaningless hostility from your depressing meat from the glass culture of decay.
i expected it to be a link to two people who smash beer cans against their head until they crack and then shotgun the beer and then burp and then high five and go to the emergency room.
i looked at the pictures of her. she looked a bit too thin. i've been similarly thin but it was not comfortable. bmi 19 feels clearly better then bmi 17. if she was on a short detox and her weight may have dipped low for a while, that is no problem. but for long term this is too thin.
she should have snacked on some nuts occasionally or added some vegetable. i dunno what quality fruit she was getting.
from what i have heard it is possible to live completely from fruit and have some benefits that regular eaters wont have but the conditions for that have to be ideal. high quality ripe ripe fruit. it is not impossible but very difficult to realize.
>“A few months ago, in Sri Lanka, she already looked exhausted, with swollen legs oozing lymph,” one unidentified friend told Newsflash. “They sent her home to seek treatment. However, she ran away again. When I saw her in Phuket, I was horrified.”
oozing lymph and swollen legs hmm. if she has been on fruit for years then the fruit would have given her a free flowing, tidy, well functioning lymphatic system that would have detoxed out even chemical residues from regular pharmaceuticals at that point. really makes me wonder what happened.
>if she has been on fruit for years then the fruit would have given her a free flowing, tidy, well functioning lymphatic system that would have detoxed out even chemical residues from regular pharmaceuticals at that point. really makes me wonder what happened.
let me help you
if your assumptions get you to the wrong conclusion, maybe your assumptions are wrong
possible explanations for the lymph system to swell up:
-her kidneys shut down and even the fail safe of her skin (pimple and dandruff)wasn't activated
maybe she had an electric device that she used for movement exclusively like a segway? her muscles should have been moving that congestion to her kidneys or ooze it out the skin. unless it was so much that her system was over capacity.
maybe some insect injected her with something?
or maybe she did something that made her cells burn 10 times more fuel then usual and the body just could not handle the load? i've been in mystical states that depleted more of my energy per day though this balances itself eventually. SHE MAY HAVE FOUND HOW TO MAKE KAMEHAMEHA.
maybe she was poisoned, maybe a snake bit her? maybe she injected some crazy drug that messed with the consistency of the lymph?
>what is the source of your knowledge?
the way i found veganism and all my health experiments was by stumbeling over the following:
some people are awfully sick to the point that MEDICINE HAS GIVEN UP ON THEM. some of those people made miraculous recoveries. i bothered to look into what they did and that led me down a rabbit hole that taught me a lot and made me realize how important it is to question medicine.
One anecdote of my father:
As like pretty much every man's prostate, his one was growing dangerously large in recent years (he is 60 already) but for when he got tested a few weeks ago again, it was actually normal sized, like a miracle.
The only thing that changed in his life is that my parents changed to a full vegan diet about half a year ago.
lettuce is pretty boring. the key to making raw vegetables taste more exciting is sauces. i like to use a small blender (one that can merely hold 600ml) and make sauces in it from raw tomato and bell pepper and nut butter and herbs and spices.
if you know how to make such tasty sauces, everything tastes great.
>if it makes you feel any better I ate ice cream for breakfast today
it doesn't. just makes me sad you consider ice cream a food. you should have had some frozen bananas and maybe some grapes or some mango and just blended this into ice cream. you can have an infinite amount of that ice cream whenever you want (but best when you are not currently digesting something else. at least wait 2 hours. this idea of desert is very much ignorant of human digestion)
as i drive through more and more little villages of germany in the van i notice there are very few businesses left. most have not survived the last few years and all that is left are the few big chain stores. for some reason though one of the few businesses that is still possible in this economy is ice cream. and it just makes people sick. people work hard and compete in the market place to sell something to people that they want ... that makes them sick. what a shit show 😐
>If you buy a kitchen machine buy one of these multi use ones.
>These can knead, shred, mix, rasp, juice, cut into slices. Everything. No need to have a dedicated machine for every task.
i'm not a fan. these are big so there is more to clean and you always have to keep track of all the accessories because the manufacturers fail to contain everything related to the product and then when one of the accessories breaks down, usually they don't allow for easy replacement by offering spare parts. these all in one machines are usually for people who want to buy them, not for people who want to actually use them.
If something from your food processor breaks down you won't find replacement parts either. Generally this is mainly a quality issue. If you buy a kitchen aid or a kenwood for 500€+ you will be able to find every accessory separately. And the probability that one of them breaks down is also really low.
What I posted is essentially a standing mixer with multiple attachments. I use it mainly to knead dough. It is so much easier than kneading it by hand. It is very nice to be able to able to make pizza dough or bread rolls whenever you want without having to go to the shoppe. I have always flour and yeast at home.
The food processing capabilities are also still very nice if you prepare bigger amounts of food. Either when you prepare food for the week or put something in the freezer. I wouldn't want to make bolognese sauce without it.
Before I bought this I had a big blender only and I find myself not using it anymore because the attachment for my stand mixer is totally sufficient for all my blending needs.
i dunno how to make the salted caramel part happen but i do know about the chocolate ice cream part:
TREAT YOURSELF NIBBA ! ! ! ! ! !
buy a few bananas and wait until you have 3 bananas that have the black spots on them. picture attached depicts ideal condition bananas for beginner. black spots are a reflection of their stage of sugar breakdown or something and that means they taste sweet and have a slightly softer consistency.
take the skin off and rip or cut each banana in ~5 -10 chunks (the more chunks you make, the easier the blender has it so if your blender is weak or don't want to blend as long, make more chunks). put the chunks in the freezer (or just always have some handy), i just throw them in an old plastic box i bought grapes in. this was all preparation.
now all you do is blend the banana until it is ice cream. very pleasant consistency if you used spotted bananas! now to make it chocolate ice cream you add a second ingredient: coco powder. that's all there is too it.
if you never tried this you think this can not be as good as milk-chocolate ice cream but you might forget that the banana adds all the sweetness and smoothness you would want from chocolate ice cream to have. just add cocoa powder until it is as chocolatey as you want.
i guarantee this is nice, if you read this and you are bored go treat yourself! if you are a bit oink then maybe add some walnut chunks (just put a few walnuts into a kitchentowel and bash them on the counter until they are small chunks that you can stir in. or turn a few nuts into nutbutter and then throw the bananachunks in.
currently eating lots of watermelon because watermelons have finally begun to be cheap enough for me. it's lovely to eat something moist that digests so fast. cleans out the gi tract. if the price wasn't so high i would have done a melon juice fast where i drink like 8 liters of melon juice in a day. this starts to feel so good that everything after that feels like disappointment and then all year long i feel sub-optimal until watermelon season comes back and then for a short while i have my full potential.
when i discovered this for the first time i was petrified by this surge of sudden energy and then by the absence of this energy.
dark grapes were 1,50€ for 500g at aldi. i bought 20 packages.
10kg for 30€ i consider this a good deal for THE ULTIMATE HUMAN FOOD. there is no better food for humans. grape is the undisputed number one match for the human digestive tract.
i tore them from the stem, washed them and they are now in the freezer. if my freezer was bigger i would have bought more. next week organic fair bananas are cheap, i will buy some ridiculous amount of bananas, let them ripen and then i make the bananas and the frozen grapes into ice cream.
i smoked some of that good good and now i made apple juice from apples juices that i found in the wild.
in retrospect i should have tried to grab a whole banana crate worth of apples because there were plenty of trees, but they are a few weeks away from being ripe i think, maybe only a few days, i dunno how fast apples grew.
anyways i grabbed ONLY 5 apples and it is barely a glass worth of juice but it's still awesome because it is wild apple juice. wild apples are not like those bitch apples that grew on a profitable farm, they survived the wild without the intervention of the dirty profit-driven part of humanity. obviously money is dirty and it rapes anything it touches.
that beverage you were drinking last, that's obviously dirtied by the evils of monetary-based civilization. it is trash. wild apples are probably holy, i shall collect them in the weeks to come to drink better apple juice that is free.
it looks more like milk. slightly browned milk, a surprisingly light color.
tastes just a tiny bit too sour, i instantly flush my teeth with water after ever sip because the teeth don't appreciate this sourness.
still tastes nice and also i can tell how electric it is. this will give a nice charge to the nervous system.
yall non vegans probably don't even know that your nervous system is a battery.
i'm driving down a nice farm road with the van and suddenly i see a tree that looks different then the others. the others only have leaves on the branches but this one clearly has leaves and something else.
there are these round objects hanging from the branches under the leaves. i see another tree and another just the same. these round objects, mostly green but a few of them are red.
they are mostly still small but a few of them grew early.
what is it?
IT IS MOTHERFUCKING APPLES!!!!!!
so i pulled over (all stupidly at first because i did not see that 10m farther ahead there is this nice parking bay i could have parked in) and i use my latest tool that i bought for 7,95€ at a local item shop.
it is a telescopic fruit picking pole with metal teeth and a little catching bag. it is ~2m long and it can double it's length to ~4m. that's very handy because i have often wished there was a way to get the nicest apple on the whole tree that is still hanging a few meters up in the air where i can not reach it with my hands, not even when i jump, not even when i park the van strategically so i can stand in the backdoor and jump towards the apple.
i tried it with those 5 apples, it works but i'm not confident the thin pipes this was built was will hold up to actual usage of the thing.
it is a beginner model though that i have to be very delicate with because it does not look sturdy enough, if i pull on it too hard i worry i break it. maybe there are nicer ones that cost a bit more.