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GermanyBernd2023-04-13 07:12:57 · 3yNo. 265619reply
The greatest Spanish language author of the past century, Jorge Luis Borges:
>English is a vastly superior and richer language than Spanish, my mother tongue, in fact I mostly read in English because it is so superior to Spanish.
 
Spics on the internet:
>NOOOO EENGLEESH IS BABY LANGUAGE FOR EEDEEOTS CABRON! EES SO EASY FOR LITTLE NINOS NO HAVE GRAMMATICAL GENDER AND 3 MILLION VERB CONJUGACIONES THAT ALL FIT THE SAME PATTERN FOR 85IQ LINGUISTIC GENIUSES LIKE US SPICS!! IT HAS NO OF THE LATIN SOUL ESE, I HAVE TO DUMB MYSELF DOWN WHEN I SPEAKA INGLES MENG!
 
Hmm, I wonder who to believe?
ColombiaBernd2023-04-13 07:52:43 · 3yNo. 265625reply
Werent you able to learn spanish?
MexicoBernd2023-04-13 08:19:55 · 3yNo. 265633reply
Who in the history of jackshit has ever said that anglosaxonjutefrenchgermanic is easy?
Sounds like scheiße to me.
NetherlandsBernd2023-04-13 10:36:36 · 3yNo. 265638reply
> 3 MILLION VERB CONJUGACIONES
Let's discuss German language then...
GermanyBernd2023-04-13 11:47:24 · 3yNo. 265648reply
Germanic verbs are easier than Romance verbs.
FinlandBernd2023-04-13 11:59:17 · 3yNo. 265649reply
the only reason why english has a rich vocabulary in the first place is that it has absorbed so many words from romance languages
GermanyBernd2023-04-13 12:04:10 · 3yNo. 265650reply
English has a large number of speakers spread out over all continents. It also has a long written history and plenty of intellectual tradition. Ironically, Spanish is one of the very few languages for which similar claims could be made.
 
As someone who doesn't know any Spanish, it surprises me. Either Borges is wrong or I'm missing something significant in my comparison.
FinlandBernd2023-04-13 13:22:48 · 3yNo. 265652reply
>English has a large number of speakers spread out over all continents
yet it doesn't have much any native words in it, andthe ones that are there are ostracized bydlo words
SloveniaBernd2023-04-13 13:49:07 · 3yNo. 265659reply
it has shitloads, but you're right about them being considered bydlo
spanish also has two layers of latin, the regular words & the learned words which bypassed early medieval development
GermanyBernd2023-04-13 14:47:51 · 3yNo. 265672reply
What do you mean native words?
After a certain point, the etymology doesn't matter anymore. Nobody cares if "certain" is of Anglo-Saxon or ultimately Latin origin.
 
And you make it seem like a bad thing, instead it is a good thing and one of the virtues that Borges lauds it for. English gives you a much wider repertoire to express yourself with compared to other languages.
SloveniaBernd2023-04-13 15:32:41 · 3yNo. 265700reply
Nah, point is that English keeps variants with different etymology to keep nuanced differences.
Kingly, royal, and regal all mean the same, but their etymological difference gives them distinction in nuance.
GermanyBernd2023-04-13 15:46:40 · 3yNo. 265704reply
>Nah, point is that English keeps variants with different etymology to keep nuanced differences.
Right, that's my point.
>Kingly, royal, and regal all mean the same, but their etymological difference gives them distinction in nuance.
Their etymology is unknown to the majority of English speakers, is my point in it not mattering.
BulgariaBernd2023-04-13 15:53:50 · 3yNo. 265709reply
Borges is factually incorrect about everything he says in that segment - in reality, every language with literary tradition going back a century or two at least has a "high" register that sounds archaic and elevated, English is not "both Latin and Germanic" (genetic taxonomy takes into account phonological innovations in respect to ancestral idioms, not vocabulary, syntax, or morphology; English is uncontroversially a West Germanic language), the "physicality" of the language he perceives is just the etymological transparency of the examples he gives - verbs like, say, "exclude", are just as concrete in their etymology ("to lock outside"), but their initial semantics is not that readily parsable nowadays.
 
As for the qualitative evaluation of languages, it's whatever, you can't beat that out of people I guess, even when they're talented writers.
MexicoBernd2023-04-13 15:56:15 · 3yNo. 265710reply
Agreed. I like Borges, but what he says in the video is just plain dumb. He calls phrasal verbs "verbs and prepositions" and then proceeds to say you can't translate:
 
Loomed over - Cernía sobre
To laugh off - tomar a broma
To dream away - Ensoñar
To live down - Superar la memoria
To live up to- A la altura de
 
IDK what is up with that. Borges is a legendary translator.
Maybe its just his white supremacist prejudices, the man supported Pinochet after all, the chilean dictator imposed by the USA after killing democratically elected president Salvador Allende in a coup (famous for being the only historical tragedy to ever happen on a September the eleventh worldwide).
BulgariaBernd2023-04-13 16:10:32 · 3yNo. 265713reply
In regards to prejudices, I'm reminded of Heidegger once saying that you can't do philosophy unless it's in German, Greek, or Sanskrit, lol.
MexicoBernd2023-04-13 16:12:52 · 3yNo. 265714reply
GermanyBernd2023-04-13 17:50:57 · 3yNo. 265739reply
Are there any worthwhile philosophical works that weren't written in German, Greek or Sanskrit?
MexicoBernd2023-04-13 18:06:13 · 3yNo. 265751reply
What a way to say you hate reading, books and knowledge in general.
https://delong.typepad.com/files/muquaddimah.pdf
https://enriquedussel.com/txt/Textos_Libros/29.Philosophy_of_liberation.pdf
https://cpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com/u.osu.edu/dist/5/25851/files/2016/02/taoteching-Stephen-Mitchell-translation-v9deoq.pdf
BulgariaBernd2023-04-13 18:06:45 · 3yNo. 265753reply
Plenty - in Prakrits, Chinese, Arabic, French, English, Danish... If "worthwhile" means "influential", that is.
United StatesBernd2023-04-13 18:17:06 · 3yNo. 265756reply
That man has the assburgers
MexicoStupid shit said by smartypants.Bernd2023-04-13 19:02:49 · 3yNo. 265776reply
THIS THREAD IS NOW ABOUT TERRIBLY STUPID SHIT SAID BY VERY SMART PEOPLE!
 
Srinivasa Ramanujan said that 1+2+3+4+...=-1/12
Dude was awesome otherwise, but regarding that... WTF!
Dominican RepublicBernd2023-04-13 19:23:22 · 3yNo. 265783reply
Spanish is a retarded language.
Dominican RepublicBernd2023-04-13 19:38:54 · 3yNo. 265787reply
Just look at the results:
>Google greatest English author's
< Shakespeare, Blake, Chaucer, Orwell, Bronte and a few that are just merely popular like Rowling
>Google greatest Spanish speaking author's
<Muh Cervantes, De Vega, Borges, literally who, literally who, literally who, literally who
Lol
MexicoBernd2023-04-13 19:50:11 · 3yNo. 265790reply
>Doesn't know García Marquez, Lorca, Isabel Allende, fucking VARGAS LLOSA.
>Knows Eric Blair by its pseudonym and thinks its a good author.
Sounds more like you get most of your "culture" watching hollywood and don't read books.
RussiaBernd2023-04-13 19:51:54 · 3yNo. 265791reply
i read a lot but never read spanish writers. For feels i read russians, for entertainment americans, for philosophy germans
MexicoBernd2023-04-13 19:54:33 · 3yNo. 265792reply
That makes sense, you read cyrilic. There is a world of philosophy in russian, arabic, african languages and chinese that I don't read because of language barriers. The kid I was talking to speaks spanish but was brainwashed into hating his own culture and idolizing europeans.
 
Its a sad a common trope of colonies.
Dominican RepublicBernd2023-04-13 19:55:30 · 3yNo. 265794reply
>If you disagree with me it means you don't read!!!
 
Obviously I didn't mention every author, but anyway, compare the English list to the Spanish list and tell me Wich one has the most influential authors? :3
Just answer that question honestly
 
I think Cervantes is the only heavy hitter there (invention of the novel and such)
RussiaBernd2023-04-13 19:56:05 · 3yNo. 265795reply
give me one author to start with
Dominican RepublicBernd2023-04-13 19:56:22 · 3yNo. 265796reply
>Hating own culture
 
This place has literally 0 good authors lol
And Spanish is an European language, form the Venezuela of Europe
Dominican RepublicBernd2023-04-13 19:59:43 · 3yNo. 265797reply
ONE DAY ILL MOVE TO BRITAIN
MexicoBernd2023-04-13 20:01:41 · 3yNo. 265799reply
Kid, you think nobody knows Gabriel Garcia Marquez. Your ignorance is on display.
https://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/17/world/americas/gabriel-garcia-marquez-dies/index.html
 
Sure, start with Argentinean wonder Enrique Dussell. This book will allow you to play with the minds of catholics like it was silly putty. All his books are free online, but there is only spanish versions.
https://enriquedussel.com/txt/Textos_Libros/46.Metaforas_teologicas_de_Marx.pdf
Dominican RepublicBernd2023-04-13 20:10:31 · 3yNo. 265802reply
I reread my comment and I though i wrote "Gabo" lol
But don't avoid my question dude
 
Wich list has the higher amount of influential authors?
Let's say I'm an ignorant, okay, and let's say that i want to know this, if you compare both list, Wich list has the most authors who had the greatest influence on world literature?
MexicoBernd2023-04-13 20:14:03 · 3yNo. 265804reply
Thats a lot of words to say you're hungry for anglo unwiped ass. You don't HAVE to read anything, but you SHOULD know your own fucking culture first.
Dominican RepublicBernd2023-04-13 20:18:12 · 3yNo. 265806reply
My culture sucks nigga
Mention one Dominican author who's at least half decent
My dream is to be nationalized British (not kidding)
BulgariaBernd2023-04-13 20:18:48 · 3yNo. 265807reply
https://learning.hccs.edu/faculty/nathanael.lee/engl1302/Critical%20Analysis%20of%20Fiction/carlos-fuentes-chac-mool
PeruBernd2023-04-13 21:51:07 · 3yNo. 265848reply
Best Dominican book is “La Fiesta del Chivo” and it was written by a Peruvian
Dominican RepublicBernd2023-04-13 23:10:04 · 3yNo. 265856reply
I always thought Llosa was Dominican, then my disappointment when I saw he was a Perv chad
PeruBernd2023-04-13 23:51:45 · 3yNo. 265859reply
He has a true LATIN AMERICAN SOVL, I read his book about Brazil in the early days of the Republic and it was pretty good, the man does his research well, it’s no coincidence you thought he was Dominican.
DenmarkBernd2023-04-14 03:35:40 · 3yNo. 265891reply
Another anglo cucksucker.
PeruBernd2023-04-14 05:39:51 · 3yNo. 265911reply
>Spics on the int-ack!
I haven´t seen any spic complaining about those barbaric distortions of Latin besides the crackerlovers above
Why is japanese at last?
SloveniaBernd2023-04-14 07:52:31 · 3yNo. 265917reply
>English is not "both Latin and Germanic" (genetic taxonomy takes into account phonological innovations in respect to ancestral idioms, not vocabulary, syntax, or morphology; English is uncontroversially a West Germanic language),
Disagreed. English inherits a lot of its derivational morphology from Romance & it is actually just as if not more productive than Germanic morphology.
NetherlandsBernd2023-04-14 10:29:57 · 3yNo. 265927reply
> Disagreed
That's all just terminology tbh. English is a West Germanic language, but only because that's a conventional decision to put languages into families based on their common speech roots.
> more productive
That's true, but only because many of the things Romance languages do via morphology Germanic langauges achive through lexicology which doesn't really matter.
t. linguistics knower
SloveniaBernd2023-04-14 11:05:47 · 3yNo. 265931reply
Excuse me but my möeder ran a study in late 80s on lexical similarity of languages by the means of computational linguistics and English was sorted into Romance languages by the algorithm.
NetherlandsBernd2023-04-14 11:09:35 · 3yNo. 265932reply
That's what I'm talking about. You can define different metrics (lexical similarity is just one of them), by some of them it will be Romance, by some of them it will be Germanic and all of that means nothing because in the end similarity and ancestry are just terms.
GermanyBernd2023-04-14 11:45:56 · 3yNo. 265935reply
MexicoBernd2023-04-15 01:51:01 · 3yNo. 266067reply
Im glad your fragile ego got hurt.
BulgariaBernd2023-04-15 09:46:47 · 3yNo. 266120reply
You may not like it, but this is what peak Neogrammarian performance looks like.
 
May blessings and prosperity befall your entire household.
PeruBernd2023-04-15 15:27:56 · 3yNo. 266165reply
>Isabel Allende
>Lorca
>good authors
What
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