Where can I sign that petition?
soon
>We discussed shortages before - when it happens in USA, everyone is just saying its local, when it happens in China people start saying "STRATEGIC, COLLAPSE, END, OVER!"
Exactly, and this is correct. Guess why?
In USA, government doesn't give a fuck, nobody gives a fuck, if there's a shortage there's nobody there who vowed there would be no shortage. Tough luck kiddo.
Meanwhile in China, the government actually bases its legitimacy on controlling the economy. If there's a shortage, it IS a system failure, because there was supposed to be someone making sure there isn't such a shortage.
In US, you can only get insured at an insurance company against shortages.
In China, the shortages are NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, so if they do, it IS a system failure.
thanks for figuring out that slovenia has been disastrously mismanaged since 2008 thanks to utter control of communists in the state media and judiciary system which means right wing governments are illegal here and they make up a new "completely new, not the same shit as last time, we promise" party and candidate they shill for before every election and the retards fall for it every time, it's macabre
LOL! The West is collapsing. The petrodollar is ceasing to exist. The West is in need of a big war, provoking it in Ukraine, Kosovo and Taiwan. The Saudis accept the Ruble and Renminbi and India and Turkey told the USA to gtfo with their sanctions. The BRICS are growing.
The EU consists of the biggest faggot leaders, I'm so ashamed. Canada and Ausfalia too, but the EU tops it all.
>Do they think its like Harry Potter witchery, do they really think that if they brainwash enough retards into repeating "China collapse" then these retards will be connected by a web of wondorous magic, that will heed their pleas as prays and grant them their wish and China will actually collapse because of magic?
yes
self-fulfilling prophesies are Wall Street 101
Well, I know names of my two Chinese colleagues and that's more important to me.
Also I know they can't go back to China (due to covid restrictions perhaps? gotta ask them more).
So basically the reason is not the names themselves but nothing names-related happening inside of China that would international attract media attention. If anything big happens it's always tied to Xi.
Chia Mantak, Lao Tzu, Confucij, Jackie Chan, (Digimon). Didnt care about their politicians, i just know they oppress Christians and make evil experiments on people of one certain sect of their chink religion – I saw chink girls in my town collecting signs for petition of that case.
hurr durr respect such beastland decency
>also i know a person from China
But a lot of westerners know some people from China. There're Chinese expats in every major city all around the globe, they work in every major international company. Not knowing exact names is not the same as knowing nothing.
>who do you think buys all this bullshit about China collapsing?
Same small share of 30 IQ people who buy every clickbait video on YouTube and exist in every country. No sane educated person would watch such a video (except as source for memes perhaps)
>Chinese in general as if they are some gel, some liquid, depersonilised substance that can be indiscriminatelly delt with
But that's exactly what Ch*nese actually are.
They are a yeast-like substance, depersonalized through 2250+ years of oppressive regimes.
Only the depersonalized ones could survive such harsh selection.
Yes, China is strong. Too strong. Its only real weakness, objectively, is its low fertility rate, which, if given enough time, will sissify the country like what's happening in SK. Interestingly, the US has the exact same fertility rate, but spics are flooding in to maintain our cannon fodder numbers, and we're still importing high-caliber skilled immigrants from around the world, thus keeping our population growing.
I want the US to get into a real shooting war with China just to subjugate it. Seeing those hideous chinks trying to project a "muscular" image just makes my blood boil. War with China would kill the global economy and potentially flatten Taiwan, but I don't care about those things very much. China likely won't even be able to scratch Guam/Hawaii, and we'll soon be manufacturing 3nm semiconductors domestically, so Formosan chinks can disappear for all I care (once those domestic fabs are online).
The Biden administration and Pelosi are doing a great job in raising the temperature of US-China relations. He's got my vote for that alone. The US (the capitalist class here) has sucked little Chinese cock far too long.
> The plans are long term, institutes are working, labs are running, papers are being written, metall is being forged
^ all of that applies to the US too, and to a much better standard. We killed the USSR without shooting a single slav. We've failed at fighting guerillas, but the last time we had to topple a government, we did it in a few days. China has never won a war against anyone but themselves. Our military planning institutions, both private and government-run, are strong and planning specifically for the Chinese threat (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/26/blinken-biden-china-policy-speech-00035385). And obviously we have people who understand Chinese, plus now that the chinks are speaking English, they're brigading the western internet and spewing their jingoism and propaganda for everyone to read.
Our military, while comprised of a bunch of IQ89 rednecks, spics, and nigs, is in a league of its own. Sure, China can destroy Formosa - whatever. But there is no chance that China could threaten US territory, while it's entirely possible that we can carpet bomb Beijing. Our technology is 10 years ahead of China's, and we have a lot more, higher-capability, equipment.
On the political will point - I think Biden's strategy of provoking China is good. We've always been better at reacting to perceived threats than attacking them proactively. If China steps out of line militarily, we'd attack and not stop attacking until China's beat down (why would a "company" want to stop in the middle of a military execution if that threatens the shareholders' mansions? None of our oligarchs want to live in China or a China-friendly country like Russia or African shitholes). Plus, it's clear that war with China would be universally popular among Americans (https://news.gallup.com/poll/1627/china.aspx). We all want to wipe out the chinks - some are just too sissified to say it out loud.
You're falling into the Chinese mystical power trap. Like those faggots who worship Asian martial arts that all get stomped by a big nig swinging his fists like an orangutan. More often than not, what appears obviously true actually is true. And the US obviously appears capable of crippling China.
> Assuming you could
Our ability to carpet bomb Beijing or other mainland Chinese targets illustrates US military superiority. I'm not saying that would necessarily be the objective. My point is that any engagement between the two countries would take place in and around Chinese territory and nowhere near US borders. Thus, Americans should want war with China. Neither I nor most educated respectable Americans care about our retards in uniform dying - no matter what, China will lose more than the US.
> How does this state look like
First, please don't compare the Russia-Ukraine situation to what any state-to-state war involving the US would look like. Russia proved itself to be weak. Even its mythical cyber warfare capabilities turned out to be a Potemkin village - nothing more than a bunch of tracksuit slavs in a carpet-wall room stealing credit cards off the internet. Russia has failed to make Ukraine surrender because it has been unable to inflict massive damage to Ukraine and its military. Ukraine is both able and willing to continue fighting. As long as those two things (ability and will) remain in a country, they will not surrender. To make them surrender, you have to destroy their ability and will.
Beating down a country until surrender involves crippling the country's military and economy to the point where population collapse becomes a real possibility in the losing country's collective mind. Either that, or you decapitate the highest level of government until it's no longer able to organize counter-attacks. See Germany (Hitler died, people were starving), Japan (population was starving and we showed we could erase all life from the Japanese Islands), Gulf War (military annihilated and people uprising)
To do this in China, we'd have to destroy their weapons systems and kill a few million chinks. Or bomb a meeting of the senior CCP. Chinks are not known for their bravery, so the population would lose morale in a month.
> How do you do that?
Realistically, the US / Western coalition would not commit genocide because we are good people. We would be happy to see China reset to their 2005 level (and stay there), where they quietly and obediently make our t-shirts and cheap electronics while not attempting to push their weight around in the global matters concerning civilized peoples. To do this, it'll require a regime change and crushing of their military, which can be accomplished with only a few million dead chinks.
And yes, obviously China is on a higher tier than Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. China is uncomfortably stronk, and the US is not omnipotent. This is why people across the West are concerned about China. But we can still step on them far harder than they can step on us.
I highly doubt nukes will ever be used in a war again, but if China does fire theirs, we have more nukes and undoubtedly superior missile defenses.
China would put up a real fight and kill a lot of US military bydlo. But Americans don't care about that, and we'll still kill more chinks than they'll kill Americans.
The US has never been in a war where we've had more casualties than our enemies. In WW2 for example, we lost about 400k people total. On the other hand, Japan alone lost more than 2M. And did you know that nearly 20M Chinese died in WW2 just fighting the Japanese, excluding the famines?
One potential downside of a war with China is that it could open the way for India's uprising, and that is even less appealing than China's uprising. But at least curryniggers are incapable of rising to China's level. The ideal scenario would be a never-ending India vs. China war.
>20M Chinese died in WW2 just fighting the Japanese, excluding the famines?
Most of these aren't directly killed by fights btw but died because of poorly organised infrastructure (medical, food) that was easily destroyed. Also many of them died due to (or as a consequence of) an artificial flooding created by Chinese themselves in order to prevent the Japanese advance..
Thanks for the detail. I wonder if the whole "flood your own citizens" strategy is still in the Chinese strategic playbook
It's still true that Chinese ICBM defenses are not better than US capabilities and that we can do more damage to the chinks than vice versa. So in a shooting war, MAD would still apply and nukes wouldn't be in play. That is if the chinks care at all about their population. If you say that chinks would still use nukes in such a situation, you admit that they're an ant colony-like collective that doesn't care about protecting citizens' lives.
Are you seriously suggesting countries don't surrender in wars? Is this what Putin-brain does to you? A world where Ukraine is not surrendering because countries don't surrender in wars!
Bombing campaigns and "war" generally makes countries surrender - that's the point. You eliminate their ability to fight back and ruin their infrastructure to the point where the whole country suffers from food shortages or whatever. It's not about your bombing campaign being popular - it's about those bombing campaigns weakening their ability to fight back and slowly reducing their population+morale. In the end, they become cucks that would be satisfied to be alive and stitching together your knock-off Gucci shirts.
Vietnam and China are not comparable. Vietnam was a guerilla state, and China is a mostly industrial economy that can be crippled in conventional ways that don't apply to places like 1960s North Vietnam, where people can live in holes under tree roots and drink water straight from rivers. If it came to that in China, half the population would die in less than a month. And yes, the US can maintain long campaigns - we have strong supply chains for defense items. That's specifically how we won WW2 while the USSR was sending soldiers to the battlefield with only kitchen knives.
Also, we cucked Iraq in this same way - we killed and oppressed until they did only what we wanted them to do - gib oil.
ikr
how it started:
>It contributes to general depersonalisation of China. The name implies identity, mind, self-intrest, consciousness. You can sympathise with someone who has a name, someone who has a name has a personal history, he has feeling, relatives, goals, aspirations. But when you talk about nameless masses, or talk about Chinese in general as if they are some gel, some liquid, depersonilised substance that can be indiscriminatelly delt with without taking into accounts feelings, rights, and minds of its parts - thats when you get racist generalisations.
how it's going:
>In wars the goal is not to prove you something. Its the survival. but China loses like 700 mln of people, they may as well fire nukes.
Beyond parody!
>He tells you what you want to hear, he pats you on the back and you feel satisfied, you like videos of his and he is winking at you constantly saying: 'You are ok, pal, you are corect in your racist assumptions, i've been doing white monkey job in China, i give a stamp of approval on your racist belief. Stamp! You are now in the know, you are cool. "
Wrong.
He very erroneously claims, despite all the drone like behaviour he keeps pointing out in his videos, that in fact, Chinese are persons. And that is despite having observed their non-personhood himself. He just keeps incorrectly ascribing such behaviour it to mental injuries caused by communism.
You could at least actually go watch his videos to see what he has to say, rather than making up an image of him that is not real.
Are you coping because a Ukranian comedian is turning Russia into a joke?
It feels like in the good old days when I beat up some turk my age only for him to call for his big brother.
Just Chyna isn't your big, strong brother, watch them take over all the empty Russian clay in the east by the end of 2023.
