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SpainCONSPIRACY THEORIESBernd2022-06-02 20:13:41 · 4yNo. 157491reply
ITT: Conspiracy theories from your country.
In my country there is a rumor that the prime minister's wife is actually a man who was accused of killing 3 girls in 1992.
SwedenBernd2022-06-02 20:21:22 · 4yNo. 157518reply
I now believe it.
SloveniaBernd2022-06-02 20:22:03 · 4yNo. 157522reply
Popular presidential candidate Ivan Krambergar was shot by UDBA because he would have defeated Milan Kučan in fair elections and thus prevented the elites to easily translate themselves from communist Yugoslavia into the new political system.
SpainBernd2022-06-02 20:31:31 · 4yNo. 157554reply
Who was the killer according to the official version?
SloveniaBernd2022-06-02 21:08:32 · 4yNo. 157622reply
Peter Rotar, a local hunter (though according to people who knew him, a shit shooter). Pic related.
He was found drunk af and arrested 2 hours before the incident. Regardless, he supposedly managed to shoot him with a carbine from a distance of 64 meters at a very improbable angle.
He admitted guilt after arrest (still drunk), sentenced to 12 years, released after 5 years. A lot of proofs disappeared and couldn't be inspected after sentence, forensic analyst claimed the angle of the bullet was impossible to have come from Rotar's house. Interestingly enough, the minister of internal affairs, Igor Bavčar, arrived at the scene in a chopper in as little as 15 minutes (distance 100km), and the chief criminalist on the case was the future mayor of Maribor, Franc Kangler.
SpainBernd2022-06-02 21:17:00 · 4yNo. 157634reply
Something like the Slovenian version of Lee Harvey Oswald, isn't it?
No matter the place, the same shit always repeats itself.
Thanks for the info.
FinlandBernd2022-06-02 22:16:30 · 4yNo. 157726reply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_MS_Estonia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Estonia
 
>What exactly happened in Estonia? The many oddities of sinking a car ferry still fuel conspiracy theories
>There are also plenty of alternatives in conspiracy theories: Estonia has allegedly had a bomb threat on the day of departure due to the shipping company's refusal to pay protection money to the Russian mafia.
>Why did the car ferry to Estonia sink so fast? Kai Myrberg, PhD, a marine scientist and non-fiction writer, has given much thought to the question.
>He has looked at modeling the accident, read all possible research reports, appendices and diagrams, found out the times, winds, ocean currents and searched for any eyewitness findings he has found in the literature. And he also studied the wildest conspiracy theories that lack weapons, murder, and international intrigue.
>The pedantic marine scientist has done all this because the nearly 25-year-old accident is one of the topics in Myrberg and Matti Leppäranta's recent book The Baltic Sea and Man.
>In the book, the authors wanted to tell about the relationship between the sea and man, which lasted for thousands of years, from the history of the sea to its ecology. In fact, the balance of power has changed dramatically over the last hundred years, and the sea that ruled before man is increasingly at the mercy of man.
>So Myrberg had to deal with the shipwreck in Estonia mainly as a marine scientist, but when the data were shaken, not everything seemed so clear anymore. Estonia developed the most fascinating topic in the book for him - and also the most difficult.
>“The more familiar I am with the subject, the harder it is to completely believe that a detached bow visor would be the only cause of the accident, as the Accident Investigation Board repeats in its reports,” Myrberg notes.
>When all the bad things happen in a row, the end result is awful.
>This was the case on September 28, 1994, when the passenger ferry Estonia sent its first distress call from a stormy outcrop at 1:22 a.m. 28 minutes later the ship had disappeared into turmoil.
>There were no more individual liferafts in the vicinity of the sinking site, and at dawn only corpses were lifted from them into helicopters when rescuers did not arrive on time. The disaster was over in a few hours.
 
>Alarm, alarm - the first alarm on board only 19 minutes after the bow visor comes off
Of Estonia's nearly 1,000 passengers, only 137 survived. How was this horror possible?
>Since the 1960s, Finns had sailed in passenger ferries so that few even felt at sea. The autumn storm took on a whole new meaning after Estonia.
>According to Kai Myrberg, the greater cause of the disaster than the weather was the negligence of the ship's crew and shipping company. Already when leaving the sea, the ship had a heel of 1–2 degrees to the right, and there is no consensus even on the exact departure time of the ship.
>"Incidentally, it was incomprehensible that Estonia was not aware of a visor that had broken off at sea a year earlier in the same type of Diana II."
>Estonia did not slow down, although it was already rocking hard and the weather was getting worse all the time. In fact, it posed at a wild pace, which was absurd.
 
>From now on, Estonia's harsh end is a bit unrealistic, according to Myrberg.
>First, there had been a strong bang from the car deck the night before. It was later interpreted to detach the bow visor. 1.01, however, new bangs were heard, the cause of which is unclear.
>“Some survivors of the accident have said that there would have been water even before the crashes on decks 0 and 1, i.e. under the car deck. However, this contradicts the official report of the Commission of Inquiry. "
>Immediately after that, the ship tilted sharply.
>“About ten more than one ship was given a crew alert. It was a fire alarm! It has not been clear whether there was a fire on the ship or whether the alarm was false. ”
>There was already plenty of water in the ship, and the ship had tilted sharply, but the first alarm for passengers was not announced until about 1.20 p.m. Even in Estonian alone, >“Disturbance, disturbance, the ship is disturbing,” sounded faint.
 
>Bow visor, explosion, sinking record
>When the Estonian bow visor came off and the car decks filled with water, the raft became unstable, like an oven pan on which water is poured, Myberg describes.
>Estonia giggled to the right. Only about 250 people managed to rush to the outer decks of the ship.
>“So I understand the shipwreck, but I don’t understand why it sank in less than an hour. It is certainly a world record. Many similar ships have remained afloat for hours. ”
>According to Myrberg, Estonia's official research reports unnecessarily ruled out an important alternative theory: in addition to the detachment of the visor, the ship could sink a hole in the side, for example.
>The hole theory is also supported by the bumps heard on the ship, the water under the car deck and the ship's dive into the seabed.
>“Rei’a has been talked about by at least one Swedish maritime rescue authority and one wrecked diver has admitted it. Andi Meister, the former chairman of the Estonian Commission of Inquiry, also stated in his memoirs that the possibility of an explosion could still not be ruled out. "
 
>But why would there have been a hole in Estonia? Myrberg has no direct answer to that.
>Theories have been presented.
>"A submarine hit or an explosion on a ship are perhaps the most popular theories."
>There are plenty of alternatives in conspiracy theories: Estonia has allegedly had a bomb threat on the day of departure due to the shipping company's refusal to pay protection money to the Russian mafia. Russian nationalist generals have also been suggested in some theories to have been responsible for the blasting.
>The official research report says nothing about the explosion.
>“There may have been weapons on board. It must be remembered that Soviet troops had withdrawn from Estonia only four weeks before the sinking. The old weapons in the army must have been heavily traded on the black market. ”
>Arms smuggling probably did not sink the ship, so the hole theory remains open. In addition, Myrberg thinks that many interesting stories are wrapped around Estonia, such as the disappearance of Captain Avo Piht.
 
>Where did Captain Piht disappear?
>Sea captain Piht was on free duty in Estonia on the night of the accident, as he was on his way to Stockholm for a pilot test.
>“He had been seen during the evening and night on the bridge and later handing out life jackets. Many eyewitnesses have said that Piht was saved and taken to Utö Island. Pihti's colleagues were from Germany looking for a ship. There they had seen the man on TV. ”
>The strange thing is that a recording of a TV broadcast has never been found.
>“Still, both Swedish television and Reuters had confirmed that Piht was saved and Piht’s wife had received the same information from Estline’s office. Meister, the former chairman of the commission of inquiry, said in his memoirs that Piht had been taken from Utö to Turku Hospital and that Prime Minister Mart Laar had been told to have spoken to Piht. After that, there are no traces of the man. And at some point, his name appeared on the drowning list. ”
>There are wild rumors about the fate of the pliers from murder to transportation to the United States. The disappearance is suspected to have been caused by Pihti's knowledge of the reasons for the ship's sinking.
>Myrberg admits he has come across really wild claims.
>“Some conspiracy theories are, as always, hair-raising. Still, they are an interesting read, especially because so many options are silenced in official reports. ”
>Also, many carefully considered options were branded from Myrberg to a complete nonsense soon.
 
>What should be done?
>The more Myrberg investigated the damage in Estonia, the more convinced he became that the investigation should be restarted.
>"It would be good for the new international research team to go through all the material."
>Professor of Marine Engineering Pentti Kujala from Aalto University is more empathetic to Myrberg's ideas. For him, the hole theory has been completely refuted and the reports of the Accident Investigation Board are very thorough and reliable.
>"And the modeling has reliably shown that Estonia really sank so fast."
>Still, the idea of ​​a new international research group does not get a complete blow from Kuja.
>“In the 1990s, there was a lot to point out about maritime safety, both in Estonia. If Estonia's sinking were to continue, it would be possible to check whether lessons have been learned from the weaknesses identified at the time. ”
>According to Kai Myrberg, Estonia should also be lifted from the bottom if the cause of the accident seems to be different from what was stated earlier.
>“Lifting the wreck would be possible with current technology. That would make it clear if there is a hole on the seabed side. At least the relatives of the victims would eventually know the absolute truth about the sinking of the ship. ”
 
Article: https://seura.fi/ilmiot/mysteerit/totuus-makaa-merenpohjassa-estonian-uppoamisen-monet-outoudet/
 
Additional information: a new investigation is currently being made into the sinking of the ship.
VenezuelaBernd2022-06-02 22:18:03 · 4yNo. 157731reply
Interesting
GermanyBernd2022-06-02 22:27:37 · 4yNo. 157747reply
>Additional information: a new investigation is currently being made into the sinking of the ship.
 
That was a Russian Submarine Infa 100%
t. new investigation
SpainBernd2022-06-02 22:52:09 · 4yNo. 157790reply
According to the generic story, there is a roadside restaurant in the town of Benicarló, in the Valencian Community (Spain), where important figures of the European political and business class are part of a secret group that is dedicated to torture and murder. of children to satisfy their sexual desires.
RussiaBernd2022-06-03 11:26:20 · 4yNo. 158466reply
 
Jesus, what a clown. Just by these photos alone I can say that the bullet was justified.
 
 
Oh nevermind, turns out Slovenia's just a clown country.
SwitzerlandBernd2022-06-03 11:29:02 · 4yNo. 158469reply
A lot of people think we have thoses in our banks but in fact we have nothing.
HungaryBernd2022-06-03 11:51:40 · 4yNo. 158486reply
It's not a conspiracy theory but the Bodom lake killings are fun.
MexicoBernd2022-06-03 15:30:10 · 4yNo. 158654reply
sounds like every bank to me
SpainBernd2022-06-03 19:34:50 · 4yNo. 159108reply
That's a hoax. The police investigated the place where the bodies were supposedly buried and found no human remains. In addition, the alleged victims contradicted their testimony and some of them confessed that it was a lie organized by a cuckold hairdresser and a false journalist.
SloveniaBernd2022-06-03 22:43:12 · 4yNo. 159344reply
hello CNI
SpainBernd2022-06-04 14:17:52 · 4yNo. 159989reply
C'mon man, CNI loves this things. A bunch of politicians who can be blackmailed for being involved in satanism, murders and prostitution? Wow, that's a wet dream for CNI.
No, seriously, the case is a big lie. Even politicians who tried to defend the alleged victims, today demand explanations in court.
The problem with publicizing a false case like this is that it overshadows other cases that are real and unknown to most people.
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