there literally is a site incels.io or so but i like your point of view

 

t. other

Then just don't indentify as such. No biggie, I doubt it would normally come up in a conversation if you're old enough but you can lie about having had sex, I doubt anyone is gonna ask you for details. Also, get laid, it's not that hard if you don't have unrealistic standards

it's all bots

tbh I've been in an incel chat group once and the only ones spouting cartoonish misogynistic shit in there also happened to be muslims so...

Maybe it isn't hard for you, for other people, it's very hard, especially if you're an unsociable person.

Men who didn't have sex before the age of 25 should get arrested and locked up underground in some sort of sewer prison facility, they pose a threat to our society

fug only one and a half years left :-DD what do

Subscription to the Eros Centre

It was, I was a virgin until 23, then I had drunk sex once, which was quite horrible, then (my first gf) at 25 and sex for the second time, then regular sex, then broke up about a year later but was confident enough to have a couple more encounters, then another gf, who was crazy but really liked my dick so I grew more confident, then a third gf who I was even cheating on, then grils (also ex-gfs) just started hitting on me randomly. Nowadays at 32, I have a very attractive gf (my 4th) with whom I don't even want to have sex with most of the time and who doesn't even believe me when I (lying) say I was a virgin until 19. This is not to attention whore, it's just to say it's a gradual thing but once you take the first step it's a lot easier than you imagined

same here

 

Why would woman want to have sex with me of they can get alpha males easily ? I would do the same if I was an attractive girl.

Cause they don't want to be seen as whores, so they need a little flirting and attention before they give it up, even to alphas. And there isn't enough alpha attention to go around. Also, girls usually idealize the guy who gives them attention the right way, so you'll be close to an alpha to them if you act the part

 

 

it was KC tier

 

Do some cocaine to know what it feels like to have 100% confidence and extroversion then fug an escort to get rid of those first time jitters.

 

life fixed, NEXT!

 

this guy fucks

 

there is just no one way about this.

 

some girls will love you if you show them warmth and care

some girls will love you if you slap them on the tits and call her a whore

 

more are in the first category

Send the police your handcuffs size in advance, it will make the transaction easier

Incels are right about everything though.

Name one thing

The importance of looks (and being neurotypical, to a certain extent)

Female hypergamy

Female hypocrisy

The apex fallacy

Juggernaut law

 

 

Choose one

 

Added:

 

Or

This. I would advise the german anon to take the Italians word for it. They are famous for fucking your women. Hence the giant expertise

chads and incels think the same thing about females, its just the beta bux cucks who keep simping for them - they are desperate to keep the only pussy in their life available. Chads have options. Incels have none. Hence the commonground between them

Incels are not famous for fucking women last time I checked

Learn to read english you turkish cocksucker. I know Arabic, german AND english is hard but try harder. Italians are VERY FAMOUS for fucking your women bro. So much so the german womans favourite sex tourism destination is italy

incel culture is just imageboard culture

 

Ah yes! The womans

a completely normal thing everybody knows about

aka choosing best potential partner and that's bad because...?

which is?

don't know what that means in incel context

but that's just male psychology

why do you think deviants like furries, bronies and other weird fetishists are mostly male?

 

what i really give incels though is the casual sex "culture" effect on understanding sexuality

i'd also add limited socialization for males with females, but after a longer thought it's not that hard to talk with girls online

overall i think incels just have unfulfilled power fantasies, so they demonize the weaker half of population to try get a better position in male-made hierarchy

that's not what hypergamy is, hypergamy is about not even choosing best potential partner because of better imaginary partners; also preferring to be chad's 5th woman over monogamy

so not breeding at all?

if the chad and none other provides security/money, not because chad is oh so amazing the woman's in it purely for pleasure

yes

and by agreeing it is actually so and not like popular opinion, you agree that incels are right about women

 

additional explanation: it is incel theory that for women pleasure doesn't matter, only social status does

incels view it as a bad thing though

like how many women decide to be childless?

moreover it's conflicting to claim polygamy is a problem today when employed females can live on their own and girls who get sugar daddies don't stay with them forever

also women who engage in such relationships do not view this man as a human being, which is funnily ironic

hypergamy means females mating for resources

Historically, 20% of women were childless in Europe.

Historically? So has it always been this way? Or was that because of wars women lost their children? Gotta show me some proofs here, buddy.

They were never married.

You can pick your preferred source from here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_European_marriage_pattern

 

Consider now also that death during childbirth was common and chads would go on to marry another woman, and you can see that rate of unmarried men must have been even higher.

 

Btw, historically average age at marriage for women in Europe was ~25.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/transactions-of-the-royal-historical-society/article/age-at-marriage-in-england-from-the-late-seventeenth-to-the-nineteenth-century/F5641BCC2F37FC37DEED16EC2B7F594E

or literally any other source.

Thanks, I'll read it, but it seems to be only about marriage. What about non marital children? Woman doesn't have to marry to have offspring.

At the time, most women were forced to get married if pregnant.

Rate of bastardry was at most 2%.

https://www.pricegen.com/bastardy-or-illegitimacy-in-england/

I recall reading somewhere that a decent part of marriages were officiated after woman got pregnant but I don't think I can find source on that right now...

Your text on bastards is all over the place, but whatever, it's not that crucial to the original argument.

So, assuming most unmarried women were childless does not in any way indicate that all of them were "saving themselves for the perfect man". Instead, your sources mention economical problems women struggled with that prevented them from marrying, which is understandable, since for a woman dowry means financial security.

After excluding nuns and prostitutes, I tried looking for data on spinsters, but this term doesn't only describe women with unrealistic partner requirements. Honestly, it's pretty much impossible to determine the percentage of this incel targeted group.

What I learnt from this exchange though, is that incels have a delusion of women ending the entire human race if left completely alone, which shows how much dehumanized women are in their head. It's hilarious considering that at the same time they're upset women also don't think of them as human beings according to their rhetoric.

Yeah, your definition of female hypergamy is a non-issue.

Is there a difference between the two?

The only difference is that before hypergamy was institutionally embedded, but now it's still self-reinforcing despite lack of institutional backing.

Yes?

You're arguing that <20% of women were just picky, whereas the evidence suggests that women needed their own money in case their husband dies/falls ill to support the family. Why should a woman and her children die from poverty?

And how is this "hypergamy" reinorcing itself today? Modern women who decide to be childfree aren't those who can't afford a child, yet still they're just a fraction of a childless women group.

It proves that "muh money" is just an excuse and that when that particular social pressure is taken away, they will find another excuse to partake in exact same behaviour.

 

See also: 80:20 principle, which exactly aligns with Muslims having 4 wives.

What? Wanting to be able to feed the offspring is not a valid reason for you? Yea, poor woman with no dowry should fuck it all and marry and tragically die, because an incel thinks historical unmarried women statistic only shows those picky bitches. And what behavior are you talking about right now?

And muslims don't allow for polygamy because something something "female nature", it's because they live in a shithole.

Look, what I'm saying is that a lot of "cultural" mechanisms that you may think are arbitrary, will only be able to remain and last for generations upon generations in case that they reflect human nature.

Muslims may not allow for polygamy because of female nature, but it's exactly because of female nature that their polygamy is so remarkably stable.

ah yes, it's female nature that brings the great muslim civilization down, not because its shittiness is remarkably stable

it's also in female nature to dehumanize men

and remember that western civilization is superior.... b-but it's not true that historically the west offers more liberty for women, totally not!

 

jesus christ and you're even arguing that economic factors don't shape the human strategy of survival, it just has always existed and it's gonna repeat for infinity

that's why we're still living in caves... oh, wait

Yes, foid nature is what controls every civilization. Always has been.

Manhood is the state of barbarism.

And yes, the reason why western civilization could objectively reign superior is because it is in fact not more, but less civilized.

And no, technology and civilization are not synonyms. Ancient Egypt was extra low tech but was more civilized than large parts of USA today.

 

all of that because "human nature" for you means fatum, not something that is alive, interactive and exists in time

you're proving me right that incels paint themselves as eternal victims to advance in internal male hierarchy

also since you already mistook cultural mechanisms for economical ones, i guess that for you one tribe of nignogs who fucked and cummed in dirt for centuries makes up for a case on "universal human nature", which of course according to you is a repeating experience

so, have you already fucked the dirt?

What do you mean? I firmly believe that civilization is bad and a perversion. It is good to be barbarian.

 

There he goes again, trying to conflate civilization with technology.

 

Yeah, that's called evolution.

Civilization causes evolution of dom*sticated huemans, which is even worse.

Ah, memes. And death of conciousness.

 

I used the generalizing word of "better", cause I deduced you may romanticize primitivism. And I was damn right. Caves are "better" for you.

 

Wrong. Fatum is already set and doesn't change. The point of evolution is to change.