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SwedenBernd2022-02-26 20:42:45 · 4yNo. 138904reply
The fact that EU nations are now sending military equipment to Ukraine risks escalating the chance for Russia to use nukes to end the war.
 
If Russia gets stalled they will have no option.
SloveniaBernd2022-02-26 20:44:43 · 4yNo. 138906reply
Based.
 
Now the whole world will see that nukes are, in fact, not this magical weapon that just obliterates cities on click of a button.
MexicoBernd2022-02-26 21:09:09 · 4yNo. 138915reply
That's fucking dumb. Modern nukes are usually 20 to 50 times the yield of the first nuclear weapons you're describing and there are thousands fired in volleys as to not be intercepted, they can easily raze a city to the ground. And that's just the run of the mill variety, thet ones going for enemy capital cities would have a yield 2000 to 3000 times greater than those dropped on Japan
SloveniaBernd2022-02-26 21:11:43 · 4yNo. 138916reply
See the rest of that thread for all of your concerns.
MexicoBernd2022-02-26 21:35:28 · 4yNo. 138919reply
Yeah still retarded, for starters the shockwave doesn't dissipate in inverse square law fashion, it rides the ground and goes farther depending on the terrain. Second you argue that the same damage could be done with napalm, well it could be done with axes, it's just not as fucking easy. Third, the link to the paper you provided is broken but I'm sure it didn't say dozens of missiles with dozens of warheads each, each nuke dozens of times more powerful than fat man in single city would do a damage comparable to what happened in Nagasaki
MexicoBernd2022-02-26 21:40:28 · 4yNo. 138920reply
no need of being aggressive.
MexicoBernd2022-02-26 21:46:46 · 4yNo. 138921reply
Calling his arguments retarded, which they are, is not agressive. It's facts
United StatesBernd2022-02-26 21:49:04 · 4yNo. 138922reply
If Russia drops a nuke, it doesn't matter where they do it, America's dropping a nuke on Russia.
China and Russia will both drop nukes on America.
France or the UK might drop a nuke but they'll most likely pussy out.
Israel drops a nuke on Iran "preemptively" or some shit.
It ends with about 2.9 million fatalities within 24 hours
MexicoBernd2022-02-26 21:50:43 · 4yNo. 138923reply
is aggressive because you can express the same thing about his arguments being invalid or nonsense without using slurs like a 13 years old.
MexicoBernd2022-02-26 21:51:14 · 4yNo. 138924reply
as soon as russia drops a nuke we are all fucked, because that would just mean a ww3.
GermanyBernd2022-02-26 21:53:10 · 4yNo. 138925reply
As soon as nukes are dropped, Poland is open, as we say. But there is no way to predict what will happen.
MexicoBernd2022-02-26 21:55:04 · 4yNo. 138927reply
Well if you think that... Mind your own fucking business you groveling piece of shit. How's that for agressive?
SloveniaBernd2022-02-26 21:59:33 · 4yNo. 138928reply
>for starters the shockwave doesn't dissipate in inverse square law fashion, it rides the ground and goes farther depending on the terrain.
Inverse square law * some local geometrical correction is still inverse square law in first order.
>Second you argue that the same damage could be done with napalm, well it could be done with axes, it's just not as fucking easy.
See: my argument about Gutian invasion in the same comment.
>Third, the link to the paper you provided is broken
This one? https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aay5478
MexicoBernd2022-02-26 21:59:56 · 4yNo. 138929reply
oh hi chechen ball, I see you bought a proxy
MexicoBernd2022-02-26 22:13:20 · 4yNo. 138931reply
It's not because it's a flattened sphere, the energy directed to the ground gets reflected upwards mostly, 1 and 9 are in the same order, it's still a lot of difference in the short distances that make a city.
 
Repeat your argument, because it seems to me you're saying ecosystems are so fragile even cavemen could break it in a global scale. Which they are, but that doesn't help your point
 
Not that one, the one you oosted, but simple math, that's talking about 350 nukes on the lower yield side, with an average death estimate of 75 million. That's the entire population of the first 15 or 17 biggest Indian cities.
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_India_by_population
 
Not such a great evidence for your argument
MexicoBernd2022-02-26 22:15:01 · 4yNo. 138932reply
No pendejo, ve a postear tu hentai a otro lado y deja que yo me preocupe por como escribo. Nadie te hizo moderador
CanadaBernd2022-02-26 23:08:19 · 4yNo. 138935reply
Only now? Seems a bit late instead of sending men to delay the inevitable.
SloveniaBernd2022-02-26 23:13:21 · 4yNo. 138936reply
>It's not because it's a flattened sphere, the energy directed to the ground gets reflected upwards mostly
It's half a sphere. Just multiply everything by 2.
But you fail to understand what the importance of square law is here. It means that if you scale ALL distances up 2 times, you will need 4 times higher yield to accomplish the same result.
 
>Not that one, the one you oosted, but simple math, that's talking about 350 nukes on the lower yield side, with an average death estimate of 75 million. That's the entire population of the first 15 or 17 biggest Indian cities.
This one?
http://www.nasonline.org/about-nas/history/archives/collections/organized-collections/atomic-bomb-casualty-commission-series/abccrpt_pt3app9ch3.pdf
 
Let me stress once more:
>Outside a radius 1km from the ground center, there are almost no damage in a concrete building.
With 100x yield, the same observation will be true for everything 10km from ground zero.
MexicoBernd2022-02-26 23:35:51 · 4yNo. 138941reply
It's not difficult to understand, it's incorrect. I said so, the cities are not very big, Few in the world are more than 15 km across.
 
By your own (extremely oversimplified and incorrect) rule a modern nuke with a pretty common yield (though not the most common) would raze most European cities, since they are less than 10km in radius. And said nuke it's usually fired in volleys of missiles with several nukes per missile.
 
I asked you explain your argument, posting links isn't an argument.
SloveniaBernd2022-02-26 23:40:25 · 4yNo. 138944reply
"almost no damage".
Not "everything inside that circle is turned into rubble immediately."
MexicoBernd2022-02-26 23:50:43 · 4yNo. 138947reply
Almost no structural damage you mean, which a grenade wouldn't cause to a concrete wall either, but to sacks of meat and blood on the other hand... Which is what the shockwave is grenades exploding in all directions in that radius, even if you're behind a wall that suffers little damage
SloveniaBernd2022-02-27 00:13:18 · 4yNo. 138952reply
Did you even read the report from Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Or do you want to keep believing this bullshit?
On pages 5 and 6/8 you have reports about people who were inside buildings (but not shielded from radiation). At 0.4km, half were killed. At 0.8km, 30%. At 1km, 10%. At 2km, barely anyone (and only breaking glass was a real hazard).
Scale that up by 10x again if you want to see what happens if you drop a 2MT nuke on a city.
SloveniaBernd2022-02-27 00:16:56 · 4yNo. 138953reply
We can also do a little bit of recalculations with comparison to Hunga Tonga volcano explosion, which was over 50 megaton. Strong enough to circle Earth several times.
And yet, 65km away in the capital, nobody was even just injured by the blast itself.
TurkeyBernd2022-02-27 00:35:02 · 4yNo. 138955reply
there are absolutely 0 chance to use nukes.
SwedenBernd2022-02-27 13:50:03 · 4yNo. 139027reply
TurkeyBernd2022-02-27 16:24:02 · 4yNo. 139078reply
Oh well xD
FinlandBernd2022-02-27 16:38:00 · 4yNo. 139081reply
The world is going to end in a nuclear holocaust and I didn't get a gf before that.
TurkeyBernd2022-02-27 16:38:28 · 4yNo. 139082reply
Maybe its a good thing, you dont have to get dissapointed in the end.
MexicoBernd2022-02-27 20:44:08 · 4yNo. 139155reply
you are embarassing yourself.
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