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FinlandBernd2021-11-28 22:09:54 · 5yNo. 128468reply
Is a fur lined hood the optimal choice for really cold weathers or is this incorrect? Serious discussion please.
GermanyBernd2021-11-28 22:18:04 · 5yNo. 128469reply
I don't like Hoodis the wind blows always the cold air to my neck. It doesn't bother you when the fur become wet?
FinlandBernd2021-11-28 22:20:40 · 5yNo. 128470reply
 
I have never owned a fur-lined hood. So I don't know. I found this topic to be interesting for optimizing winter clothing and minimizing heat loss. Personally I think they are ugly and I avoid hoods all together.
GermanyBernd2021-11-28 22:27:12 · 5yNo. 128471reply
I think the fur become very quick wet (and heavy?) from the air that you breathe out. I'm not sure if you really need one in Helsinki its more something for -30C.
GermanyBernd2021-11-28 22:59:38 · 5yNo. 128474reply
Fur lining is thick and traps a lot of air in it. That makes it a bretty good insulator.
 
I don't see how the fur lining sticking out in the front should make any difference. The cold wind from the front will still hit you in the face.
 
If we had really cold weather I would get ans Uschanka.
GermanyBernd2021-11-28 23:14:52 · 5yNo. 128475reply
I bought heated gloves. I pimped them from 3,6V to 7,2 Voltage, now my hand is boiling in the glove.
FinlandBernd2021-11-28 23:27:22 · 5yNo. 128476reply
I am not sure if it does that. I don't need it perhaps in Helsinki, but I was thinking of having something like that for an emergency situation. Or to use it during -20 degrees. It actually does get cold down here and it feels colder because of the humidity.
 
I only googled and found some Quoara answers, but I don't know how reliable they are:
 
>When a fluid moves around a body, the fluid flows around the body in a predictable manner. In particular, at the point where the fluid first encounters the body there is a phenomenon known as the bow wave effect. This is the tendency of the fluid to move outwards and around the body in advance of the leading edge of the body:
 
*picture related*
 
>Now, here's the important thing: Most of the fluid is in what is called laminar flow, meaning that it flows along the surface at more or less the speed of the fluid. But at the boundary layer, in particular the leading edge boundary, the turbulence causes the fluid to create a small vacuum. So in the area in green above, there is almost no flow at all.
 
>Now, what does this have to do with parkas and fur trim? Well, it turns out that the bow wave effect is proportional to the area of the leading edge of the object that the flow is around. Or, to put this another way, the fur trim on a parka increases the effective area of the leading edge, leading to a larger bow wave effect and hence the creation of a zone of calm area right in front of your exposed face.
 
>I myself have experienced the difference between parkas with and without fur trim many, many times, and the the difference is startling. Particularly when the wind is head-on, parkas with fur trim make the difference between relative comfort and rapid frostbite.
 
>So, what's super interesting is that while I know the exact answer to this question, and this was widespread knowlege of this in the arctic, there does not appear to be any literature on the subject. This would make a great Masters (or even PhD) thesis, and best of all you could do it in Engineering, Anthropology, Fashion... the possibilities are endless. I can even see the title now: Percieved and Actual Cooling As A Function Of Fur Trim-Induced Bow Wave Effects in Traditional Inuit Garments: An Empirical Approach.
 
>Does the fur around the hood of a winter coat actually do anything?
Yes, it creates a microclimate out front of your face, breaking up the wind before it gets to you, keeping your warmer. Even if you bought it just for fashion.
 
>Real fur and especially wolverine, wolf for example does not ice up from your breath condemning in the same way as other fur and synthetic ruff. There its a mix of the coarser, stiffer guard hairs and soft, fine under hair in good quality fur ruffs. Wolverine hairs are also smooth and don’t have tiny barbs on them like other hairs from fur.
 
>Coyote is the most common today and works decently but not as well as wolverine.
 
>So you make rime ice, which is frost whereas other real and fake fur ice up with structural ice. You can brush off the rime frost instead of having to pull chanks of ice off lesser ruffs. This is not a danger to urban parka wearers but is key if you are out on the land away from civilization. Structural ice is heavy and can pull the hod and ruff down making it less protective and compromising vision.
 
>So yes, a properly sized fur ruff on a hood plays a key role in wind breaking and insulating.
 
 
The topic of Fur-lined hoods now interests me.
 
I would love to wear Uschanka but I think I'll look autistic in one.
 
I bought a pair of heatable work boots for my father back in the days after he complained about stiff feet due to cold (he is one of those types that spends 99% of his time outside their house doing something) but during recent years it hasn't been cold enough at their home area. Still, a great purchase.
MoscowBernd2021-11-28 23:57:55 · 5yNo. 128478reply
 
Based hand boiler. You should become a vigilante superhero and fight crime with this crafted artifact.
CanadaBernd2021-11-29 03:49:05 · 5yNo. 128491reply
Pretty neat.
 
OP, I'm a strong proponent of wool. Given its ability to breathe and retain heat even while wet has provided me the security I need while travelling or tramping. Practicality overcomes aesthetics and above all freezing or arriving to a point of hypothermia. Given that, I will still use synthetics to lower the weight of certain items such as balaclavas and gloves, so that I may layer them within one another.
RussiaBernd2021-11-29 08:09:56 · 5yNo. 128494reply
No, you can have long hood it works perfectly
MongoliaBernd2021-11-29 08:53:53 · 5yNo. 128495reply
It must be pretty cold there to discuss a subject like this
HungaryBernd2021-11-29 09:23:24 · 5yNo. 128496reply
This: >>128469
Hood channels the wind down your neck and body when faced toward it. This ofc can be mitigated with scarf or something, but still your heda will be cold. Solution: walk backward (if you stand still it's easy to turn your back).
 
In very very cold, the air you breath doesn't matter (only in case of stache and beard), it's dry cold.
GermanyBernd2021-11-29 17:29:48 · 5yNo. 128527reply
>Hood channels the wind down your neck and body when faced toward it.
Get a jacket that actually fits you. Your hood and the bottom of your jacket is way too wide if it allows wind to blow through.
GermanyBernd2021-11-29 17:40:57 · 5yNo. 128528reply
>bow wave effect
When you walk through the cold it is usually not you that moves through a medium. Rather it is the wind that moves the medium around you. The wind is usually faster than the speed that you walk with. You probably won't care that much about the cold when there is no wind.
 
That means that the bow wave effect will only play a role if you walk exactly towards the wind. In all other cases this area of no wind will be somewhere else on your head. That does not mean that a bigger hood won't give you more cover from the wind though. Only that the bow wave effect probably does not play a huge role in this.
MoscowBernd2021-11-29 22:30:54 · 5yNo. 128558reply
What a serious discussion, guys! Bernds talking aerodynamics and thermodynamics in a thread about winter wear.
 
I'm tearing up.
CanadaBernd2021-11-29 23:01:59 · 5yNo. 128565reply
What's your winter gear?
MoscowBernd2021-11-29 23:52:07 · 5yNo. 128573reply
GermanyBernd2021-11-30 00:21:03 · 5yNo. 128577reply
I lived 50km from the polar circle for one winter. But it was in a place without any wind so it was very comfy and I didn't concern myself about aerodynamics.
CanadaBernd2021-11-30 00:21:14 · 5yNo. 128578reply
Basé et hiverpillulé
FinlandBernd2021-11-30 00:25:11 · 5yNo. 128579reply
CanadaBernd2021-11-30 00:41:33 · 5yNo. 128583reply
Where's the joge?
FinlandBernd2021-11-30 00:45:57 · 5yNo. 128584reply
Right there. Cunt. Höhöhö.
CanadaBernd2021-11-30 01:09:53 · 5yNo. 128588reply
Ah yes I see now
RussiaBernd2021-11-30 05:19:27 · 5yNo. 128608reply
When would you even actually need them
GermanyBernd2021-11-30 10:06:45 · 5yNo. 128627reply
I drive Scooter in winter.
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