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FinlandFriday night shitpostingBernd2021-01-29 17:04:43 · 5yNo. 108267reply
What are you drinking tonight?
 
Regards, mango aloe vera juice drinkenings
RussiaBernd2021-01-29 19:11:59 · 5yNo. 108276reply
Tea, Bukovski, some girl asking me out, I'm telling her abstract sentences, she understands, cigarettes. God why I'm unhappy.
United StatesBernd2021-01-29 19:24:06 · 5yNo. 108277reply
Drinking covfefe
FinlandBernd2021-01-29 19:27:25 · 5yNo. 108278reply
You need a stick to push all the girls away.
RussiaBernd2021-01-29 20:16:16 · 5yNo. 108280reply
Our famous poet once said “the less we love a woman, the easier it is to attract her”. Works like clocks.
What sort?
GermanyBernd2021-01-29 20:28:23 · 5yNo. 108281reply
camomile tea like always
United StatesBernd2021-01-29 20:47:05 · 5yNo. 108282reply
Colombian covfefe. Also studying for an exam and perhaps drawing a picture I’ve been planning in which giant dodo birds destroy the Netherlands.
GermanyBernd2021-01-29 20:53:37 · 5yNo. 108283reply
RussiaBernd2021-01-29 21:34:18 · 5yNo. 108284reply
>Colombian
Your favorite?
 
>destroy the Netherlands
Just watched the last episode of the Attack on Titan. A city was destroyed there very colorfully. I think it's very difficult to depict mass destruction realistically and bloodily.
GermanyBernd2021-01-29 21:49:28 · 5yNo. 108286reply
I'll have a Glenmorangie.
United StatesBernd2021-01-29 22:08:49 · 5yNo. 108288reply
Yep, I prefer a dark Colombian roast. The composition is not going to involve many building in perspective: basically just a giant dodo next to a windmill getting shot at by an arquebusier in the foreground with a marina in the background. Here’s an earlier pen drawing of a dodo.
RussiaBernd2021-01-29 22:11:11 · 5yNo. 108290reply
So you just wanted to draw a dodo and anything else is out of perspective?
What do you think about aliens abducting a giant dodo?
United StatesBernd2021-01-29 22:14:22 · 5yNo. 108291reply
 
Basically yeah. Here’s a thumbnail sketch of the general idea. The joge is that the dodos are getting their revenge on the dutch. Naturally dodos have no quarrel with aliens.
RussiaBernd2021-01-29 22:16:03 · 5yNo. 108292reply
>revenge
Maybe add a broken dodo's egg on the background? Or why the dodo brings retribution?
RussiaBernd2021-01-29 22:16:52 · 5yNo. 108293reply
Also looks cool. Like old illustrations to Alice in Wonderland.
United StatesBernd2021-01-29 22:25:52 · 5yNo. 108294reply
Thanks Bernd. It’s thought that the extinction of the dodo was brought about largely by the introduction of invasive predators to Mauritius in the 17th century as well as the clearing of forest habitat for the exploitation of ebony bark and sugarcane.
RussiaBernd2021-01-29 22:30:45 · 5yNo. 108295reply
I clearly can see the forests extinction on your pic. That part is caught perfectly. :D
United StatesBernd2021-01-29 22:31:33 · 5yNo. 108296reply
:-DDD
FinlandBernd2021-01-29 22:37:39 · 5yNo. 108298reply
>drinking
>tonight
Friday is for fasting, pagan scum.
RussiaBernd2021-01-29 22:38:55 · 5yNo. 108299reply
Drinking is halal. Except for tea. You don't drink tea in Sabbath.
FinlandBernd2021-01-29 22:43:06 · 5yNo. 108302reply
Wednesday and Friday are fasting days in Christianity.
RussiaBernd2021-01-29 22:44:15 · 5yNo. 108303reply
FinlandBernd2021-01-29 23:02:04 · 5yNo. 108304reply
Yes I can
https://www.oca.org/orthodoxy/the-orthodox-faith/spirituality/prayer-fasting-and-almsgiving/fasting
OCA because it's in English but OCA is actually an offshoot of your church
 
If you need to convince yourself just do a grep for "fast" in the New Testament, you'll see tons of references from Jesus saying "WHEN you fast", not "if you fast", Jesus fasting 40 days, Saint John the Baptist fasting, the Parable of the Shrunk Cloth and Parable of the Wineskins (about his disciples and that they will be fasting), Jesus exorcising a demon saying "this kind goes out only by prayer and fasting", Paul talking about fasting, the Apostles in Acts fast. Then there's the Church Fathers like Saint John Chrysostom writing an entire treatise on fasting and its spiritual benefits, other Church Fathers and Desert Fathers fasting, so it was part or Christiaity from the very beginning. Like it or not, fasting is part of Christianity.
RussiaBernd2021-01-29 23:09:08 · 5yNo. 108305reply
You didn't prove that Wednesday and Friday in particular are fasting days in Christianity.
 
Fasting is a way a Christian can have penance or a way for making a request to God. There are other conditions and reasons for fasting. So basically for a Christian every day has a reason to have fasting. Don't highlight two days and say that they are something traditional and special. They aren't and you didn't prove otherwise.
FinlandBernd2021-01-29 23:12:47 · 5yNo. 108306reply
 
As for Wednesday and Friday:
Canon 69 of the Apostles (4th century, but passed down from the Apostles)
 
>If any bishop, presbyter, or deacon, or reader, or singer, does not fast the holy Quadragesimal fast of Easter, or the fourth day, or the day of Preparation, let him be deposed, unless he be hindered by some bodily infirmity. If he be a layman, let him be excommunicated.
 
Fourth day and day of Preparation refers to Wednesday and Friday (that's what their names mean in Greek)
 
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3820.htm
 
Plus literally the Church says it. Ask any priest they'll tell you the same. Why can't people just admit when they're wrong instead of continuing with their fantasy?
FinlandBernd2021-01-29 23:17:36 · 5yNo. 108307reply
 
https://www.oca.org/questions/dailylife/orthodox-fasting
 
>Orthodox Christians fast on Wednesday in remembrance of the betrayal of Christ and on Fridays in remembrance of His crucifixion and death.
 
I don't know what more "proof" you want than the Church's official website.
 
>Outside of Lent, it is Tradition to fast every Wednesday (in honor of the betrayal of Christ) and Friday (in honor of His Crucifixion)
 
https://www.goarch.org/-/when-you-fast
 
These are the two biggest Orthodox Churches in America, I posted their links because they're in English but you'll find the same information from any other Church.
FinlandBernd2021-01-29 23:21:28 · 5yNo. 108308reply
>69. If any Bishop, or Presbyter, or Deacon, or Subdeacon, or Anagnost, or Psalt fails to fast throughout the forty days of Holy Lent, or on '
Wednesday, or on Friday, let him be deposed from office. Unless he has been prevented from doing so by reason of bodily illness. If, on the other hand, a layman fail to do so, let him be excommunicated.
 
http://www.holytrinitymission.org/books/english/cannons_apostles_rudder.htm
 
Cope
FinlandBernd2021-01-29 23:25:36 · 5yNo. 108309reply
>They aren't
How does it feel to be so ignorant and wrong, proofster?
RussiaBernd2021-01-29 23:32:59 · 5yNo. 108312reply
>Why can't people just admit
Why can't you just show profs? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
>Canon 69 of the Apostles
Not every Christian church thinks that all of them are canonical. Also they are not directly from Apostles.
>Hincmar of Reims (died 882) declared that they were not written by the Apostles, and as late as the middle of the 11th century, Western theologians (Cardinal Humbert, 1054) distinguished between the eighty-five Greek canons that they declared apocryphal, and the fifty Latin canons recognized as orthodox rules by antiquity.
Eat shit.
 
> Ask any priest they'll tell you the same
I'm not out of my mind to believe in what priests say. They would say to you something they would like to say to a layman. They never tell the whole truth. Neither did you.
RussiaBernd2021-01-29 23:34:32 · 5yNo. 108313reply
> Church's official website.
It's pretty simple: you find something in a divine book, you prove that that book considered canonical. Everything else is devil's tricks and can't be trusted.
FinlandBernd2021-01-29 23:38:35 · 5yNo. 108314reply
>Church's official canonical teaching is the devil's tricks
Ok blasphemous churka
FinlandBernd2021-01-29 23:40:23 · 5yNo. 108315reply
>Not every Christian church
There's only one Christian church, that has preserved the Sacred Tradition from the Apostles and Church Fathers, the rest are heresies.
FinlandBernd2021-01-29 23:42:51 · 5yNo. 108316reply
>I'm not out of my mind to believe in what priests say. They would say to you something they would like to say to a layman. They never tell the whole truth.
Again you show your foolishness. On medical matters you listen to a doctor, on repairs you would listen to a mechanic, yet on matters of religion you think you somehow know better than a priest? Lmao.
 
>They would say to you something they would like to say to a layman.
But we are laymen.
RussiaBernd2021-01-29 23:48:57 · 5yNo. 108317reply
>There's only one Christian church, that has preserved the Sacred Tradition from the Apostles and Church Fathers, the rest are heresies.
There is only one Abrahamic religion, that was created before all others and passed by the true God. And it's jewish wink wink The rest are heresies.
 
>On medical matters you listen to a doctor
And I don't believe all the doctors I visit and not to all the shit they say. They want my money after all, in the first place, my treatment and its quality on maybe 10th. So I visit several doctors before I make a decision.
 
>But we are laymen.
But I'm not gullible.
FinlandBernd2021-01-29 23:50:09 · 5yNo. 108318reply
 
The Canons of St. Nikephoros, Patriarch of Constantinople, also mention fasting on Wednesday and Friday.
 
>Not every Christian church thinks that all of them are canonical.
Show me a Canon that doesn't mention it.
FinlandBernd2021-01-29 23:53:46 · 5yNo. 108319reply
Except in this case literally every doctor would be telling you the same thing..
 
>But I'm not gullible.
The argument made was that Christians should fast Wednesday and Friday. Since there's really only one Holy Apostolic Church, and that Church mandates fasting on Wednesday and Friday, and has done so traditionally for over a millennium (if not longer), Christians fast Wednesday and Friday.
RussiaBernd2021-01-30 09:22:34 · 5yNo. 108323reply
I have no more time for discussing Christianity, unfortunately. It was very interesting discussion, but I have to switch to thinking about unrequited love and homicide on continental level. Thank you for your participation!
FinlandBernd2021-01-30 11:11:40 · 5yNo. 108326reply
Here's mentions of fasting in the New Testament (not exhaustive):
 
Mat 4:2
And having fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry.
 
Mat 6:16-18
“Moreover, when you fast, do not become gloomy, like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces that they may appear to men to be fasting. Assuredly I say to you, that they receive their reward in full.
But you, when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face,
so that you do not appear to men to be fasting, but to your Father who is in secret; and your Father, who sees in secret, will reward you.
 
Mat 9:14-15 (paralleled in Mark 2 and Luke 5)
Then the disciples of John approached Him, saying, “Why do we and the Pharisees fast often, but Your disciples do not fast?”
And Jesus said to them, “Can the groomsmen mourn as long as the bridegroom is with them? But the days will come when the bridegroom will be taken away from them, and then they will fast.
 
Mat 17:23
However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.”
 
Luke 2:37
and she was a widow of about eighty-four years, who did not depart from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayers night and day.
 
Acts 13:2-3
Now as they were ministering to the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.”
Then, fasting and praying, and laying their hands on them, they sent them away.
 
Acts 14:23
And having chosen elders for them in every church, and having prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord in whom they had believed.
 
1Co 7:5
Do not deprive one another, except by mutual agreement, and that for a season, so that you may devote yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, lest Satan tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
 
2Co 6:4-5 (similar in 2Co 11:27)
We give no occasion for offense in anything, lest the ministry be blamed,
but in everything commending ourselves as ministers of God: in much endurance, in tribulations, in hardships, in distresses,
in stripes, in imprisonments, in disturbances, in labors, in sleepless nights, in fastings;
GermanyBernd2021-01-30 11:42:32 · 5yNo. 108327sagereply
Ban Bogdan.
FinlandBernd2021-01-30 12:09:49 · 5yNo. 108335reply
You mad, Mehmet?
FinlandBernd2021-01-30 12:50:39 · 5yNo. 108342reply
This, I’m ready to leave if Bogdan is not banned.
FinlandBernd2021-01-30 12:54:04 · 5yNo. 108343reply
Then fuck off already.
FinlandBernd2021-01-30 13:20:27 · 5yNo. 108345reply
 
I just noticed another one by chance. From the Didache, 1st (!) century, literally the first and oldest Catechism.
 
Chapter 8. Fasting and Prayer (the Lord's Prayer). But let not your fasts be with the hypocrites, for they fast on the second and fifth day of the week. Rather, fast on the fourth day and the Preparation (Friday).
 
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/didache-roberts.html
 
So yes, fasting on Wednesday and Friday is Christian and always has been.
GermanyBernd2021-01-30 15:49:44 · 5yNo. 108348sagereply
Seething.
 
Ban Bogdan.
 
Nobody cares about your Christcuckery.
RussiaBernd2021-01-30 17:10:10 · 5yNo. 108360sagereply
>Nobody cares about your Christcuckery.
I actually care.
FinlandBernd2021-01-30 18:42:59 · 5yNo. 108401reply
Sorry about the uncharacteristic shitposting rampage today. I accidentally drank 185mg caffeine in one go like an idiot. Now feeling the buzz and having a nasty migraine, feels bordering on panic attack.
 
Call it self-sabotage, but I am currently unable to do anything productive other than writing imageboard posts and hoping the headache ends soon.
FinlandBernd2021-01-30 20:20:36 · 5yNo. 108411reply
>Ban Bogdan
For what?
GermanyBernd2021-01-30 20:26:42 · 5yNo. 108414reply
FinlandBernd2021-01-30 20:36:27 · 5yNo. 108420reply
 
>>108401 here, I am not Bogdan but a native Finn funposting today. Sorry for being a nuisance.
FinlandBernd2021-01-30 20:54:48 · 5yNo. 108427reply
>Nobody cares about your Christcuckery.
Of course you don't, mudslime. Christ is God, deal with it
FinlandBernd2021-01-30 21:02:59 · 5yNo. 108428reply
How did people fast for 7 weeks in Russia and all these countries where no vegetable foods grow, or places like Alaska (where Russians also were)? Is buckwheat that high in protein? I'm considering adding it to my diet. And I don't mean nowadays when you can get anything from beans to quinoa year round in the supermarket, but in the past. Did you just eat a lot of potatoes and preserved vegetables? I also heard that fasting rules are a bit less strict in Russia, I heard you only consider olive oil "oil" but any other oil is fine, and the same with wine, only wine is prohibited while other alcohol is allowed (which is wrong imo). Greeks also cheat by allowing seafood, which doesn't even make any sense (I know the excuse they give, it still doesn't make any sense because it should apply to Athos, and maybe only in that extenuating circumstance).
RussiaBernd2021-01-30 22:05:53 · 5yNo. 108432reply
Bread was allowed back then. I mean, peasants generally had no other food than fish, bread and buckwheat and potatoes. Fasting was very easy. And they knew how to make 10 kinds of bread, also the one for fasting. I think vegetables were pretty rare on the table back then. Can't say anything about oil or vine.
FinlandBernd2021-01-30 22:25:53 · 5yNo. 108436reply
What about eggs and milk? Those would be available daily, milk would be a valuable source of nutrients in northern latitudes.
RussiaBernd2021-01-30 22:31:52 · 5yNo. 108437reply
>Those would be available daily
I don't think so. It's a pretty expensive property to have for a peasant. I mean, people didn't poses land and cows and chickens usually, it was nobleman's property they rent. I think some rich peasants could have had it, but majority would trade eggs and milk with what they could have cultivated on their soil.
FinlandBernd2021-01-30 22:55:38 · 5yNo. 108440reply
Weird. In Romania from our literature I get the impression that everyone had some animal, even if it was just a goat for spraying some milk into mămăligă (polenta). The village cowherd would take everyone's cow and bring them to pasture for the day in one big herd, so they couldn't have been that rare. I mean the animals literally reproduce on their own, especially the chickens.
 
Maybe it was different for serfs though, who, like you said, were landless. But officially we already abolished serfdom in the 1700s.
RussiaBernd2021-01-30 23:37:00 · 5yNo. 108450reply
It was very different across the whole Tsar's Russia to be honest. Some people had completely nothing except for the land that nobleman gave for rent, also that nobleman could lease animals, but some noblemen were piss poor, that's when peasant could be having their own land and animals. Sometimes noblemen were piss poor, then serfs could change their nobleman once in a while for better life.
In some parts of Russia people were almost free from serfing, but that's like 1-3 regions. Some people had huge families that can cultivate huge areas of soil, in that case they could have land from nobleman and also their own, therefore they could have animals and other kinds of thing you can buy.
RussiaBernd2021-01-31 10:30:22 · 5yNo. 108466reply
FinlandBernd2021-01-31 10:46:01 · 5yNo. 108468reply
You should love God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind, and you should love your neighbor as yourself.
GermanyBernd2021-01-31 12:16:12 · 5yNo. 108473reply
If God doesn't exist, why should he love him?
 
I am also of the opinion that we should ban Bogdan.
RussiaBernd2021-01-31 14:47:59 · 5yNo. 108476reply
Nah, I already admitted going to hell. God can kiss my ass now and punish me later. #YOLO
 
>If God doesn't exist, why should he love him?
You shouldn't. But as Pascal said: you don' t lose anything believing in God and acting according to his will, but if you repulse God there is punishment. So it's up to you. Free will and such cases.
 
And Bogdan should stay.
FinlandBernd2021-01-31 14:51:54 · 5yNo. 108478reply
It's never too late to repent. Parable of the Prodigal Son, Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard, Parable of the Two Sons. But an unrepentant hardened heart goes to hell.
RussiaBernd2021-01-31 14:59:49 · 5yNo. 108479reply
In Orthodoxy every heart goes to hell. What do you expect me to do, repent and be happy to be punished in the end anyway? There is no way back, except for becoming a martyr.
FinlandBernd2021-01-31 15:51:16 · 5yNo. 108486reply
>In Orthodoxy every heart goes to hell.
Where did you get this from?
RussiaBernd2021-01-31 16:52:53 · 5yNo. 108488reply
Not literally, ofc, but repent has been made useless in most cases. In Orthodoxy it's not enough to just repent once and sin is gone, because confessing does not prove you've been generous. Also you should repent for every sin you've made. Which is pretty difficult. So the only way for a Christian to enter heaven is to live righteous life till the very death, if you continue to sin time to time and don't confess every sin, or if you confess and want the confession to be generous, which is unrealistic.
TurkeyBernd2021-01-31 17:45:48 · 5yNo. 108490reply
FinlandBernd2021-01-31 19:37:18 · 5yNo. 108497reply
Yes very, ended up drinking 2 litres of it.
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