Be glad that this destructive nihilism hasn't wrapped its tendrils around you. Such people are worse than a hungry generator

this is your brain on imageboards.

 

you become way too self aware and insecure

for what purpose does he usetinder if he doesn'tbelieve in his chances to ever find a womyn to fug

False hope and an ease of visualizing pretty girls can only means the man is self awwre but remains in his cave.

There's no saving these mentally castrated goons.

Entertainment, learning to talk to grilles

I've talked to a lot of incels in the past and the worst thing about them is that they will make fun of you and argue with you if you try to help them. It's a totally cultish mentality and I hate that it has spread so insidiously to every corner of the internet. Bernds should help each other deal with life instead of playing crabs in a bucket and cult propagandists.

 

Well, picking up hobbies out of interest is not always a valid strategy, as the type of guy to turn into an incel in the first place is tended towards hobbies that do not attract women. I've never met women through my hobbies or even friend groups that I met through these hobbies.

Joining hobbies to find women is one of the worst ideas. Imagine doing that.

 

I go to the nearest sports club, which is football. Then I discover they have men's and women's teams. Do I drop it, because I'm only playing with men or do I continue in the hopes of meeting a woman at the club's christmas party once a year?

 

So football didn't work. But next to that is a niche meme sports club like Quidditch, where men and women play together. There are four possibly dateable grilles, but after a few weeks or months I discover I'm either not interested in them or they are not interested in me. Do I move on just because I couldn't gf one of my teammates or do I continue playing a sport that I joined for the sole reason of finding a gf and now it takes hours of my free time that I could spend trying to find gf somewhere else.

 

Then there are many hobbies that have little to no women like warhammer or mostly old people like collecting stamps. Do I desperately try to find the one woman there? Or do I join a hobby like dancing or knitting that has many women but I basically have to force myself to be more social?

Obviously the message shouldn't be "join a hobby to find gf" but develop a social life and put yourself into more situations where you might find a gf.

Making friends is good. Because friends might have friends who are grills.

And being a well-rounded individual who has actual interests is attractive.

I think the message is not to just go for any hobby you like, but also a hobby that improves you in a meaningful manner. You could put it as looking for eudaimonic well-being over hedonic well-being. For me, I Joining a hobby for the sake of women alone is obviously stupid. Not only will you not enjoy yourself that way, you'll also be likely to give up quickly and experience none of the benefits.

For me, I picked up reading over playing video games (as one example). Even though reading is pretty much a solitary hobby, I feel much better talking to women about my interests and I can tell they respect me more for it*

what can you read hat improves you in a meaningful manner?

The goal is to have a meaningful personality and interests.

 

If you're thinking of a transactional "If I do this then women will like this" you've already lost.

 

I know people that play D&D on weekends or do inscrutable things like try to write a textbook on biothermodynamics and they have meaningful relationships. It just means they have a unique personality and healthy interests and thus are a rounded person. All in all, it just means you are interesting. If you spend your free time, even an hour or so a weekend on brewing beer or just growing plants on your windowsill it shows that you have a degree of independence and thought that someone else doesn't have and thus makes you different.

 

If you are trying to find a gf or a meaningful partner then it's attractive if you have your shit together, can spend time with them, but also have your own healthy interests. An unhealthy interest of playing Destiny, LoL, or tabletop games for 10 hours a day, being unwashed, lazy and distant isn't attractive; and for some reason a vast majority of incels cannot comprehend this. Even if you were a millionaire and spent the majority of your time online, being unmotivated to do anything, and incapable of a conversation because you have no outside interests, you would never find a meaningful relationship with a woman. Reference: Elliot Rodger

 

I met my significant other online, and my inane hobbies were (when not doing experiments in lab) trying to grow a variety of exotic fruit trees (goddamnit I tried to grow pawpaw trees so many times) on my balcony, film photography, and working on a novel no one will ever see in my spare time. I'm not particularly good at any of the things, but I can talk in an impassioned way about scarification and what I would need for a dark room. My significant other does not care about kaffir lime trees or the mediocre pictures I have taken with kodak ektar 100, but me talking about that and being interested in those things is much better than some dipshit who only wants to fuck you and watch netflix afterwards because that's all they can do.

this. most people meet women via frenuloi

Depends on what you're looking for. I'm most interested in history, so there are subjects I can tell passionate stories about and aphorisms I can share. I've read a lot of Socratic dialogues recently which make me think about life and remind me of what sort of person I want to be. And there are general benefits like improving your vocabulary, increasing your attention span and reducing the strain on your wrists and eyes (I'm comparing to usual Bernd activities like mindless browsing and gaming here).