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FinlandWhat is sauerkraut made of?Bernd2021-12-12 00:18:14 · 5yNo. 129337reply
I want to try to make a sauerkraut stew due to the huge health benefits and sauerkraut interests me. However I have serious issues trying to understand what sauerkraut really is. Here when you go to the grocery store and buy some ready sauerkraut, it seems to be labeled as 95% of "valkokaali", that doesn't seem to even exist and my google search takes me to the definition of "keräkaali" (Brassica oleracea).
What am I missing here? What type of cabbage exactly is sauerkraut made of?? I'm going insane trying to understand this detail.
United StatesBernd2021-12-12 00:21:30 · 5yNo. 129338reply
green cabbage
MoscowBernd2021-12-12 01:07:34 · 5yNo. 129343reply
>dirty utensils right on the desk.
 
Cringed unironically and involuntarily.
United StatesBernd2021-12-12 01:08:54 · 5yNo. 129344reply
FinlandBernd2021-12-12 01:11:47 · 5yNo. 129346reply
That is a picture from a Wikipedia article for "hapankaali". I would never put them on my table. My fork and knife would be on my plate at 5 o'clock if I would take a picture of my meal.
 
Looks very delicious, what type of meat is that? How is the potato made?
United StatesBernd2021-12-12 01:12:47 · 5yNo. 129347reply
T-Bone Steak and baked potato in oven. Rub a bit of olive oil over the skin to get it crispy :DDDD
MoscowBernd2021-12-12 01:13:28 · 5yNo. 129348reply
 
Utensils aren't on the desk, but there are some crumbs on it, so not ideal. Nice potato, though.
MoscowBernd2021-12-12 02:09:49 · 5yNo. 129356reply
 
>That is a picture from a Wikipedia article for "hapankaali".
 
Russian Wikipedia has a picture of special knife for cabbage shredding, made in Russian Empire. Just a bit of trivia.
FinlandBernd2021-12-12 02:37:23 · 5yNo. 129357reply
GermanyBernd2021-12-12 02:42:59 · 5yNo. 129359reply
>not a single german knew the answer to this question so far
GermanyBernd2021-12-12 09:57:33 · 5yNo. 129366reply
I made Sauerkraut before you were born.
SloveniaBernd2021-12-12 10:18:41 · 5yNo. 129367reply
OK first let's clear out some terminology. Excuse my poor knowledge of Finngolian.
 
>valkokaali
White cabbage?
>keräkaali
Head cabbage?
>hapankaali
Sour cabbage?
 
Sauerkrat is made of white cabbage. I haven't seen it made of red cabbage ever (maybe Russians do that, it sounds like a Russian thing to do). Red cabbage is head cabbage just like regular (white) cabbage. Usually here too you only say "red cabbage" but white cabbage is just "cabbage". So perhaps this is why usage of "valkokaali" confuses you there – it's not a word usually used since that's just regular cabbage – but here it is specified to disambiguate from the red variety (which I presume you'd call "punakaali", please notify me if that sounds like a word to you)
 
t. sauerkraut (kisuzéle) pro
 
Rated.
GermanyBernd2021-12-12 11:17:25 · 5yNo. 129379reply
Sauerkraut is made of Weißkohl or Spitzkohl. Both are different cultivars of Brassica oleracea. I don't understand much about biology, but I think plant cultivars are something like dog breeds. Ultimately, both a pug and a German shepherd are canis lupus familiaris, but very different. In the same way, both red and white cabbage are brassica oleracea, but actually quite different.
GermanyBernd2021-12-12 11:18:23 · 5yNo. 129380reply
Looks good, but I would have cooked both the brussel sprouts and the steak for a longer time.
GermanyBernd2021-12-12 11:19:08 · 5yNo. 129381reply
Pretty cool tbh.
SloveniaBernd2021-12-12 11:20:29 · 5yNo. 129383reply
>Spitzkohl
Oh right that one too.
 
>In the same way, both red and white cabbage are brassica oleracea, but actually quite different.
Btw literally everything is Brassica oleracea.
Cauliflower, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, kohlrabi, they're all Brassica oleracea.
GermanyBernd2021-12-12 11:23:23 · 5yNo. 129384reply
Based plant tbh.
GermanyBernd2021-12-12 11:24:03 · 5yNo. 129387reply
SloveniaBernd2021-12-12 11:25:11 · 5yNo. 129388reply
Did you know that balkanoids sour cabbage whole?
We're right at the border so we can get either.
GermanyBernd2021-12-12 11:28:14 · 5yNo. 129390reply
I really like the version with red cabbage. But I don't think it is made the same way and I don't know about health benefits. It's pretty good, though. Goes very well with all sorts of meat and in Iceland they even serve it with whale.
 
Additional interesting info about Icelandic cuisine: They know Rotkohl quite well, but not Sauerkraut. When asked to describe the taste, I struggled, but the German teacher said it was very sour. I objected, but she explained that to Icelanders it is very sour, because they aren't used to sour foods at all, while German cuisine has plenty of sour things.
GermanyBernd2021-12-12 11:28:53 · 5yNo. 129391reply
Fascinating.
GermanyBernd2021-12-12 11:33:14 · 5yNo. 129393reply
that makes you pretty old, bitch
FinlandBernd2021-12-13 19:29:23 · 5yNo. 129482reply
Very informative post, thank you, just what I was looking for.
 
>White cabbage?
Correct.
>Head cabbage?
More like "ball" or "coil" cabbage.
>Sour cabbage?
Correct.
 
>Sauerkrat is made of white cabbage. I haven't seen it made of red cabbage ever (maybe Russians do that, it sounds like a Russian thing to do). Red cabbage is head cabbage just like regular (white) cabbage. Usually here too you only say "red cabbage" but white cabbage is just "cabbage". So perhaps this is why usage of "valkokaali" confuses you there – it's not a word usually used since that's just regular cabbage – but here it is specified to disambiguate from the red variety (which I presume you'd call "punakaali", please notify me if that sounds like a word to you)
 
I think this sums it up well and I can now continue to attempt to cook my stew. Your translation "punakaali" is also the correct for red cabbage.
 
Thank you for additional information. I dipped my toe a little bit into the world of winegrapes and cultivated a german breed "Siegerrebe" once, they were preddy good.
GermanyBernd2021-12-13 19:45:02 · 5yNo. 129484reply
The one from Supermarket is shit, because they put to many vinegar in it.
FinlandBernd2021-12-13 20:54:39 · 5yNo. 129491reply
How come? At what point do they use vinegar in the process? I used picture related product and its ingredients are:
- Organic white cabbage (95%)
- Organic carrot
- Sea salt.
"Made by traditional recipe of Lactic acid fermentation (maitohappokäyminen)" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactic_acid_fermentation
GermanyBernd2021-12-13 20:58:36 · 5yNo. 129492reply
I guess its for longer shelf-life.
FinlandBernd2021-12-13 20:59:43 · 5yNo. 129493reply
I will keep an eye out for such products and not buy them. The one I'm using seems to not have vinegar in it.
GermanyBernd2021-12-13 21:32:42 · 5yNo. 129495reply
Some foods are better with added vinegar, though.
GermanyBernd2021-12-13 21:57:27 · 5yNo. 129500reply
Nein.
GermanyBernd2021-12-13 23:41:51 · 5yNo. 129503reply
Non-Westfalian detected.
FinlandBernd2021-12-13 23:52:56 · 5yNo. 129505reply
GermanyBernd2021-12-13 23:57:12 · 5yNo. 129506reply
GermanyBernd2021-12-13 23:58:01 · 5yNo. 129507reply
S M E T A N A
SloveniaBernd2021-12-14 00:03:05 · 5yNo. 129508reply
Real sauerkraut should be made from zero vinegar, only lactofermented in brine and own juice.
 
If that's what I think it is (the way we prepare red cabbage in Slovenia), that's sweetened cooked fresh cabbage with some apple vinegar. Completely different process.
 
+1
GermanyBernd2021-12-14 00:16:15 · 5yNo. 129514reply
Looks good. Would like to try.
HungaryBernd2021-12-14 10:43:55 · 5yNo. 129536reply
Made of sour germans.
Republic of LithuaniaBernd2021-12-21 23:14:24 · 5yNo. 130325reply
Tfw you're studying the sauerkraut, then two gals get a Nobel Prize.
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