Thank you. I hope more bernds find their way here.
such a weird imageboard UI but i wish you all refugees a good and happy time
why not just hide them if you can't sustain seeing them
and sure i understand you as the kohl admins favor them but in my opinion they shouldn't be banned either, just make sure no group gets too large, let it be pedos or /pol/ people
i remember the era of few years in KC when the moderation was very strict and it sucked, i rather have pedos and nazis over that
Relax, at last. It seems like this board has gained enough users to actually implement a mod at this point. We can even ask the BO directly to simply ban him, and that's it.
Admin is on our side and while he's not yet banned you might as well just fucking IGNORE him.
Simple as.
Just imagine him typing nonsense into nothing, wasting the time of his already short life from the ruined health and sending the screenshots to his masters on discord. That's even sadder than actually just having him banned.
agreed
its just
>the kohl admins favor them
that part sketches me out tbh
idk wtf theyre up to, but if thats the company they keep, thats good enough reason for me to head for open waters.
ime, on english boards at least, whenever that kind of shit starts becoming too prevalent, the van isnt too far behind, and it usually spells the end of the place anyways.
rather than sit around and wait for the inevitable end, and have everyone get scattered like with OG kc, id much rather start working on finding a new home for muh /int/ellectual disgussions
>idk wtf theyre up to
My go-to theory is that there is a deal with either Helmut or some other mod. Money involved. They're using Kohlzinechan as a platform for initial promotion of a product they will commercialize later. Either the zine itself or their twitter accounts.
Reasons they thought KC is the right place to do so are beyond me.
> for the sake of wrecking
To rephrase it: it's for the sake of getting that dophamine rush from constant self-validation circlejerk on discord, also fueled by righteous rage of Bernd and genuine belief that their "magazine", which basically consists of OPs from an average spergforum circa 2006, is some sort of entertainment for true intellectuals.
It's a mix of your ordinary "lol he butthurt x--DDDD" trolling, egocentrism and powertripping.
i was talking about the pedos tbh
my gonspiracy theory was that it was a way for some sort of EU authorities to mark a bunch of political dissidents, and should anyone step out of line, blackmail them with pedo shit
seems farfetched, but ive also heard dumber shit
but in regards to KZ, i personally cant see a scenario where an underground zine like that could ever become even remotely profitable. even with all the mainstream social media signalboosting in the world
t. been involved in several similar underground publications irl
even the moderately """successful""" ones that ive worked with are usually paid out of pocket by the guy putting it together. and even with all the "i know the guy at office max and we can make all the free copies we want"-tire exploits in the world, rarely have i seen a zine be profitable. usually if it can even break even, thats about as good as one can hope for.
and again, this is speaking of punk zines based around NYC and NYS at large, so they already had established distribution channels and a "scene" to market towards.
KZ is much much MUCH more niche than that kind of stuff.
i mean there as only like maybe 100 regular users on the site at all.
and it seems well over half of the didnt give a solitary fuck about the zine at all, and had never even read it.
then theres all you guys who are vehemently opposed to it too, so were talking maybe like 15-20 people that even read it. half of whom were involved with it.
it just seems really unlikely to me tbh
but ive been wrong before
>but in regards to KZ, i personally cant see a scenario where an underground zine
True, the zine itself can barely become a popular read. But the social media accounts of people behind it can grab a lot of attention easily.
Getting social media involved in the first place wouldn't make any sense otherwise.
I think KZ just fucked up really hard, there's no conspiracy going on, no attempts to destroy KZ, they just made a terrible decision by creating a twitter, and their lack of anonymity also led to them making a clique. They're just too stubborn to accept their mistake and delete the twitter, and they have also made identities for themselves through the discord, so it became a personal thing for them.
>They're just too stubborn to accept their mistake and delete the twitter, and they have also made identities for themselves through the discord, so it became a personal thing for them
Yep, pretty close to truth. The way these people reacted and "owned" the situation shows that they are not KC-native elements to begin with. This isn't some oldfriend purity nonsense I'm talking about, but a newcomer should always respect the established rules and local culture. Or else we'd be looking at the modern Wect kind of situation, replace niggers with zine twitteristas. Everyone will be left unhappy.
And in the end of the day, stupidity on both the kcmod (they still don't know how to handle this whole situation and there is no agreement between different kcmods, all the info we have recieved so far is extremely contradictory) and the zine clique sides have turned it all into an irredeemable screwup.
pedos are separate issue to ziner/twitter maggots
first loli posting is form of free speech and i agree with kcmods on that
second kcmods proven to be efficient in quickly dealing with actual pedo threats with illegal material if people report them (i do)
the issue is that kcmods by refusal to get rid of onions and proxies stripped them selfs of any ability to actually ban pedos since those already use tor and proxies and can laugh off any ban and just keep posting
what i would do is leave alone loli posting as free speech and perma remove onion and proxy mence and give bans for life for posting cp as its presence indeed can be used against law abiding bernds as a vindictive tool punishment for "wrong think"
true i guess we strike a nerve in kcmods and kohlziners were probably burring them in reports so shitty kcmod was monitoring int and removing all anti zinnertwitterkeinbernds threads we made
with make me suspect mod is either on the twitter with them or listen to them and got convinced they are good posters those maggots are subversive as fuck but either way it makes mod twitter fag him self or an naive moron neither is good
still i cant say they dont act against actual pedo threads those disappear in less than few min of being reported so mods dont want actual pedo stuff but by allowing proxies and onions they cant remove cp fapping pedos either since no ban is effective on them unless tor and proxies got banned all together
not sure just use common sense, keep in mind there are some hash banned images of pedo posts, none of them was 2d and i think it wouldnt be an issue, just dont post whatever your law enforcement can get interested in or whatever a common bernd is going to consider "pedoshit". general rule of thumb just stay away from posting minors even 2d ones.
Pole didn't seem to be an unironi pedoshit though, he was just a very sensible man like any Pole. I think you judged too quick here.
I wish you were as quick to judge the slovenian. It's easy to see what kind of reaction he recieves here and why exactly he came here, no idea what else do you need to witness.
It's the promise of a board free from people like him that drew people here, we all want him gone. The rest of the kz-tiers can be debated, but not him. He spreads cancer and induces nausea at the very first sight of his countryball.
>first loli posting is form of free speech and i agree with kcmods on that
well just keep posting that shit on other boards then
idgaf what you do on your own time, but BO was very clear that no CP, or diet-CP would be allowed to be posted here. that was his only rule he laid out to us upon arrival.
if you dont intend to abide by that, then i suggest you go back to kohl where helmut is willing to allow you that """"freedom""""
>second kcmods proven to be efficient in quickly dealing with actual pedo threats with illegal material if people report them (i do)
only after i kvetched up a fucking storm about it on /int/ and /kohl/ around christmas time in 2018
still, you know as well as i do better, prolly that those threads have pics with actual illegal shit embedded in them from time to time.
the main issue, and why i think that shit has no place on /int/ in the first place is because of the nature of the board.
no matter what cunt were talking, nearly every cunt has extremely draconian laws on both viewing and distributing content of that nature. opinions on those laws aside for now, the problem becomes much worse when were talking about bernds from different cunts, where such rules can range anywhere from 14-18 as AoC, and where viewing can mean nothing at all, to getting ur ass raeped in prison by tyrone and branded a chimo4lyfe just for having a thumb in your cache.
this wide array of consequences generally means that any intl site that wishes to not get v& eventually needs to abide by the strictest of all these rules, which happens to be US law unfortunately for you
<but what about all the holohoax shit being illegal opinions on the germoney/muh slippery slope et al?
lemme know the next time you see a site get v& for such things
on the other hand, ive seen multiple times, an IB get v& for hosting even diet-CP/JB shit
bottom line is that this sites admin doesnt want it here. period.
>perma remove onion and proxy mence and give bans for life for posting cp as its presence indeed can be used against law abiding bernds as a vindictive tool punishment for "wrong think"
im split on this tbh
youre right that any pedospammer worth his salt eats IP b&s for breakfast
and having an /int/ thats full of proxies and onions is no /int/ at all
but being allowed to proxy up should still remain an option for all bernds as anonymity is important. especially so if a bernd is scared of being attacked in the way you laid out.
thus i think that the better solution is to not toe that particular line at all, and abide by admins wishes and leave that stuff off the site entirely
there are, after all, plenty of sites that are much better equipped, and with userbases similarly equipped, to deal with such shit
TL;DR
admin dont want it here
just leave the rest of us out of it ffs
Besides, his ban would mark the end of the entire drama. His dumb messages serve only one purpose: to scare Bernds away.
A newcomer enters this site, sees his flag, sees that he's not banned, sees that Bernds get emotional and fail to ignore him, thinks that this is essentially the same thing and leaves forever.
They are the ones to bring any sort of cringe "rivalry" here and they are the ones to fuel it.
It would be much better to be done with it right now before it's too late.
And there's already enough posters to make such decisions. Trust me, even more will come after it's done.
Since bo is not in any hurry to unban me I will phone post it don't worry I will fuck off in few minutes I don't plan for staying in gulag
I'm not pedo I wasn't and won't be but banning any picture of child is ridiculous and clear indication it's a gulag that will restrict free speech and will disappear posters in mid conversation
Second if any picture of minor is ban able offense should kids on street were burka because they are walking "cp"?
Third blank refusal to ban slowborg clear show bo is in on the twitter shit and I expected it I had run in with bo when this board was first created I was banned for life
Should children on street be obligated to wear burka? Because that's what the rule imply. Second give an inch of free speech soon you will get banned for other things that trigger bo. More over public web pages are full of children pictures did you saw face book getting vaned for parents shameless attention whoring their children? No? Exactly.
Kc international never wasn't just for international discussion it was all goes board for feels thoughts politics everything
No I don't know about any imbedded shit and I don't want to
Sorry for not quoting exact parts of your post I'm responding to but it's annoying on phone
I did it to test and confirm what I knew already that you will run this board like a gulag and ban everything that trigger you that's it and despite saying you will unban me you ignored my appeal
Feel free to ban me for ban evasion I said what I wanted
To other bernds if I don't respond it means I was banned possibly stealth banned
just my opinion, but if slovboi isnt actively trying to subvert the place, or whatever, i dont really see the major issue with him
hes just another fucking autist
<is he kind of an attentionwhore?
yea, and hes fucking retarded for posting his fucking selfies all the time. but seeing as hes literally the only sloveniaball around for years now, and has a very distinct post style, he would stick out like a sore thumb regardless
<is he retarded for advertising KZ/KC on twatter?
fuck yea he is, but unless hes trying to do it to this site, then i dont see the issue immediately.
i reckon at this point hes aware that he fucked up royally there.
so long as he doesnt try anything that fucktarded again, i dont see the harm
>sees that Bernds get emotional and fail to ignore him
all the threads ive seen him as OP have been pro-srs disgussions
ive seen other balls posting much more inflammatory shit, and yet still weve all had no problems, and have only increased users over the past few days.
its one thing to establish groundrules and whatnot to prevent admin taking a ride in the party v&
but to start off a new board with a shitshow of drama and bans and the like is a mistake
it will strangle the board before it even has a chance to become a thing.
we should see this exodus that we just went on as a voyage to the "new world"
mistakes were made in the old country, no doubt, but so long as we actively try to avoid those same pitfalls, and everyone here is willing to help build a new home for everybernd, they should be allowed to post as far as im concerned
the two main pitfalls being
>no clique faggotry
>no pedoshit
shouldnt be too hard to avoid
again, all my personal opinion as kind of an outsider to this particular drama
i have no association with BO, and although i first found this place a couple months ago, it was only very recently that ive started to post regularly
i think we have a chance to make something of this place, and im really tired of kohl and all its baggage
so lets ditch that shit and make something new
Do you truly believe person banning someone for dearing them to ban you and doing it for over two years none the less, won't be power tripping? Notice how butt hurt he was I dared him to ban me. I don't and I don't plan to stay. Just for reference I will repost picture that got me banned you judge your self. But be quick since bo will probably erase it in seconds and ban my phone up and I won't be able to respond.
He also didn't respond to your thread seriously he avoided the question and still refuses to remove slowborg because slowborg probably said truth and bo did hang out on twitter with them
Btw he still didn't unban my pc despite saying he will nuff more said
believe me man
those pedofags are far more destructive and subversive than any mere discord clique
do you not remember how they wormed their way into the kcmods good graces?
how they continually toed the line, testing the water, until pedothreads were at the top of the catalog daily?
they are like parasites, and will always try to subvert, cause strife/distrust between various posters, all so that they can eventually have free reign of a place and post their smut.
and when they finally end up getting the site v&, do you think theyll shed a tear or even give a fuck about what happens to the rest of the bernds?
fuck no, theyll simply move on to a new host, as theyve done dozens of times.
i think BO has the right idea here taking a hard line on them, and being more lenient on the rest, at least until they show some sort of malevolence towards us and this place.
seems like, of the KZ crowd that followed along, they seem more inclined to let the whole thing die
Read the other threads though, Bo denies any connection and claims that he only wanted to grill this whole time, so he skipped the whole drama and didn't even fully know what drew us here.
If he's really ready to make one of us a mod, this place actually has a chance of becoming positively KC-tier.
You're going all-negative too early.
>Do you truly believe person banning someone for dearing them to ban you and doing it for over two years none the less, won't be power tripping?
You was asked one simple thing to not post minors and you openly displayed your protest to this rule what did you expected? We all here because we agree to this simple rule if you dont you do not belong here, you saying it like you was badly treatened but you was instructed right from the start and you got what you deserved. I seriously dont understand your argument.
Do you scream at children on street to wear burka?
I was banned for over two years for picture you saw and bo just told me to fuck off along with
and
So how can I not be negative sorry but I will respond today for some time and soon I will be gone because as long time bernd I clearly
>dont belong here
As I was clearly told
dont worry so much m8
see, idc about discussing such things, or arguing with you about the morality of that shit, or AoC laws, or anything else on that subject. to the contrary, IBs are prolly the only place one can have such discussions openly, and they can certainly be interesting ones
the problem is actually posting it
admin dont want it, and neither do the rest of us
just post that shit on another board and problems werent
but thats not good enough for you, is it?
at the very least dont try to play dumb
even people who have only been on kc since kohl have seen this strawman routine before
>You're going all-negative too early
hes doing it again
pedos are very subversive. they need to be to survive
Most of them make sense and I don't get killed/gulaged for being in presence of child and we escape to chans to discuss freel of nonsensical rules that are there and prevent us from openly saying what we think or do edgy jokes under our own names as none sense rules would punish us
Plus the fact you feel like you have all the right to make arbitrary nonsense rules because it's your board tells a lot about how you run this place
Is
In your mind borderline pedo erotica? And mind you I posted it just to prove the point you won't back down for arbitrary bans for bs because you already banned me for bs when this board first went up and tried to be replacement for kc
But it lost to Kohl exactly for bs like that now I gave this board chance again because twitter faggotry on kc is unbearable but nothing change and guess what all of them are here to and will slowly do the same,we only miss Cataloniaand that polish cock sucker (I guess twitter hq assigned him permanently to kc) for full catch them all set
They even said you hanged out with them on twitter. Yea they are lying bitches all of them but some how this wouldn't surprise me if it was true.
He just considered your post a personal promising of flooding this board with loli erotica, so he flexed his adminmuscle a little. Now he's engaging in a conversation, which isn't a powertripping cunt move in the first place.
Just look here:
Curb your anger and give this place a chance. We must unite, or else we will fail and persist in a doomed world without KC.
It's time to shrug this thing off as a stupid little misunderstanding.
>He just considered your post a personal promising of flooding this board with loli erotica, so he flexed his adminmuscle a little. Now he's engaging in a conversation, which isn't a powertripping cunt move in the first place.
i've banned over 300 ips over pedo related bullshit so it was rather an instinct to me.
Kc was never about posting lolis but it wasn't anti it either we had ironic loli posting all the time and we had fucking game do you even remember that?
You sound exactly as one of twitter keinbernds and a soccer mom
Don't worry I will leave on principle because I don't see future to this place
10 years on kc now kc is truly dead we have gulag here and twitter zone on kohl
B was and is pedo den I won't argue about that and b is what killed og kc but int never was i
ronic reaction pic of loli here and there was all we had and actual pedos were remove and we laugh at the game and took it in good Spiro of fun
Yes Kohl mods are too easy going on it that disgusting monkey and some of onions shit should have been banned ages a go but you are going in opposite direction of retarded
Trully retarded as expected of muri mutt
I refuse to us kc archive shit it shouldn't exist and as kohlzine buddy you are probably exempt from it any way but I remember your post and remember sudden 180 you did on issue of kohlzine and twitter
now you defend worst offender of twitter fags nothing more to say
yeah, you keep saying that, and i keep confirming it, but how does that prove that i am a kohlziner? i never made any pro-kohlzine posting, nor did any of the other kohlziners ever recognize me. there's also no discord screenshots of anyone talking about venezuelans, or coordinating any sort of KC invasion with me. there's no screenshots or mention about my KC posts in their discord either, not that i'd know of at least.
All i've ever done was make fun of this drama that i always found ridiculous, and comment on hypocricies and unfairness on both sides of the argument.
>you defend worst offender of twitter fags nothing more to say
Disingenous cunt, hypocrites like you are the kind of people i hate. I never defended that slovenian, i just defend fair treatment of the users. if you expect mods to delete everything you dislike, don't start complaining when you also get the boot. You faggots keep bitching about muh clique, but you're also slowly creating your own and alienating everyone that disagrees slightly with you.
I'm talking about that specific thread (in which i actually did very little other than shitposting), but if you really wanna know, read my post again. You're making up scenarios in your head like accusing me of being a kohlziner with no real proof, or saying that kohlface was a KZ creation to mock bernd, and there's the fact that you're also creating your own little group and removing people that disagree with you, which is a thing you people criticized about kohlzine in the past.
>You're making up scenarios in your head like accusing me of being a kohlziner with no real proof
I'd like to believe you're not but we've seen some hostile posts under a Venezuelan ball back on KZ
>or saying that kohlface was a KZ creation to mock bernd
You really cannot deny they used it in such context, especially the pet pole.
>removing people that disagree with you
I only agitated for having the slovenian banned for the reasons explained above.
You are employing the same tactic that pole cock sucker does all the time
>catched red handed just keep denying
At least some here remember your posts I do and you behave exactly like that pole exactly like catalonia in unison as if you were all given same orders like +15 trolls
Venezuela is such a rare ball unlike that pole you can't deny it wasnt your posts and even with that pole it's obvious he is one poster and he is easy to spot as 90% of time he shit post the shit kohlzine face or other degenerative threads aimed at bernds
Another 10% is split between pushing trany/homo agenda and pretending to be other posters to discredit them he even uses specifically same picture names as other poster to impersonate them I seen it multiple times
No you cabal didn't want to ban any one you just all agreed to wreck kc and transform it completely
And by dedication you fags do it with you either all have to be new left twitter neets or actual paid shills
May be theory that your group gets money from twitter follows isn't that far of
>we've seen some hostile posts under a Venezuelan ball back on KZ
I probably posted them, but as i said, i don't take any sides, i only argue against people that i consider disingenuous, and i am hostile against them because i dislike them. Nothing for or against any cause, just against that particular poster. So my motives for attacking anyone are purely personal.
>You really cannot deny they used it in such context, especially the pet pole.
But that was mostly after the whole KZ scandal began. Before that it was mostly used to mock a specific kind of poster, those that make low quality /r9k/ tier incel posts, which are known to be absolute kanker. In any case, it should be used properly, not as a propaganda tool, like KZ is using it.
way i see it, theres two issues, that brought two different groups of bernds here rn
>KZ
and
<pedo/kc cartel
you were all talking about KZ embedding itself with the mods and whatnot, no?
im not as familiar with that drama, but ill give you that, its pretty weird that the administration there seemed so willing to promote it. i cant discount that theory, but i also cant prove it yet.
kohl has fucking cp banners. the pedofags are embedded in that site
all the way up to the top most likely, otherwise how in the fuck would they have cp banners?
what fucking reason could any admin ever give for willingly putting a target like that on their own backs? especially when theyve already been in german MSM and know that people/journos know of and watch the site?
point is, antagonists for both of our main issues are now here in front of us rn
like, i thought you guys forgot slovboi was even a part of KZ, or were just gonna keep calling him a faggot/bully him and deal with it that way.
but as far as i can tell, the dude hasnt done anything to try to be subversive towards here yet. to the contrary hes been advertising this place for a bit as an alternative to kc how i found it iirc in one of the chink flu threads.
thats why i was so fucking confused when you guys said you were coming here.
but this other guy that just showed up?
all hes done so far is try to fuck with the BO, and break the ONE SINGLE RULE WE HAVE
then, since getting his paddies whacked by BO for it, all hes done is continue posting anyways on a different IP, trying to cause discontent/distrust in between you, the BO, and everyone else ITT.
yall can make up your own mind on whats the bigger threat here rn
but im telling you if you let these pedofags get what they want, this place will be destroyed. i guarantee it.
__SCHIZO LINE: anything posted below this line is schizophrenia and should be taken as such__
i have serious suspicions that these same fuckers were the ones that got krautchan v& in the first place. how convenient then, that kohl went up just a few days later? and has been a pedoden ever since inception?
even more interesting when you factor in >>98608
<i've banned over 300 ips over pedo related bullshit so it was rather an instinct to me
seems like that kind of stuff happens a lot to anyone trying to make an alternative to kohlchan, doesnt it?
>seems like that kind of stuff happens a lot to anyone trying to make an alternative to kohlchan, doesnt it?
except maybe this. i was positioning this board as anti pedo all time and it was times when i botspammed other pedo chans so this was their war against this board.
finally i've banned most of them, but still pedo bullshit appears randomly but regularly.
so i doubt its done against krautchan like board, to me its rather that there are even bigger pedo clique then zine one.
I had beef with bo since this board was created and I left never looking back
I'm posting from different IP because I'm phone posting bo promise to Russia ba to unban meif I ask but he did not
I'm not speeding quarrel I just point obvious kolzine posters i remember and butt heads with bo over overzealous retarded rules sure I may be rebel with out cause but if this place is to be new kc I can't accept bs bans over bs and bo has track record of it I'm actually astonished he didn't ban my phone IP yet but I guess he cares about PR for now
Additionally your retarded puritan stand as well as bos is not kc way and never was I already said Kohl mods are too easy going I would ban that pedo monkey each time he makes pedo thread because he is continuous offender and Kipp posting worse and worse shit I wouldn't be surprised if he double posted as onion when he dumps actual cp (thankfully mods deal with it when you report it)
>pedo banners
With one? There are drawings and some loli pics in clothes in banners that's all I'm not kc mods lawyer and I won't defend them as they clearly work side by side with twitter fags but there is no actual pedo shit on kc if you discount onions and that notorious jungle shit already mentioned
What ever think what you want but for me you are going in retarded zealous like a trigger soccer mom
I don't know about any pedo rides but I believe you on that as this is how they work but that doesn't men you should ban bernds for reaction pictures or triggering you personally and I know you did both
There was and you should have known it as you advertised this place on yli ernst 8chan and all other places bernd scattered to and I remember that
Until ultimately kohl won kc succession because of your retarded behavior
Won until twitter zine invasion now it's unbearable and you sized opportunity to create your dream gulag here
i just pointed to simple fact there was a delay between kc death and kohl going operational as i said i never checked domain registration i only know about when it open up for bernds and pointed to fact you should known it because you advertise bernd.group in meaning time
what im accusing you of is over zelous and retarded arbitrary bans and going in to blind soccer mom tier rage
>will someone think of children
mode as if you were 40 year old american karen
you to? oh well never mind i didnt plan to stay and i didnt advocate for loli dumps we see on kohl so dont get wrong idea
you people clearly have different idea of what imageboard should be than i do and may be i really dont fit here but i definitely dont fit with twitter crew of kohl
as last suggestion that wont concern me because im leaving i would suggest all bans to be public
stealth bans is scummy tactic some kc mods used and you used in past
where you simply erase the post and ban the poster with rest of bernds not knowing why he stopped responding and if he was banned or what for
this is shit was used when something triggers mod and he is clearly ashamed of own ban hammer that wouldnt stand peer review
unless we talk illegal stuff that obviously has to disappear and is understandable but there should still be notice of ban left for bernd to see that someone was banned and for what
thats all i guess have fun im leaving in 10min