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MoscowBernd2025-07-16 16:52:07 · 11mnNo. 344917reply
>I have come away from these experiences with the conviction that the best starting hypothesis in dealing with most killers is that they are “untreated traumatized children inhabiting and controlling the dangerous adolescents and adults that stand accused of murder.”
>Approximately only 0.01% of Americans (1 in 1000) report an ACEs score of 8, 9, or 10.2 The scores reported by the last 10 killers I interviewed had an average score of 8.
 
ACE = Adverse childhood experiences
 
This had been on my mind lately
People usually explain away criminal behavior with genetics, but tbh this stat really puts things into perspective
United StatesBernd2025-07-17 02:38:44 · 11mnNo. 344953reply
Bad child hood= bad person (most of time)
FinlandBernd2025-07-17 15:12:03 · 11mnNo. 344958reply
People with bad guy genetics who don't kill will become malefactors in other ways
BelarusBernd2025-07-17 23:06:16 · 11mnNo. 344968reply
But I'm not bad!
Even if I had a bad childhood (probably only with the exception of toxicity towards people online (although this is due to the fact that I am simply not capable of greater evil because I am an ordinary Internet nerd working at a job I don’t like until late and at night hanging out on boards and trying to drown out my hatred for this damn unfair world))
BelarusBernd2025-07-17 23:26:53 · 11mnNo. 344971reply
And ever my toxicity is explained by envy. The usual envy of happy people turned (for many years of living on /b/) into hatred and misanthropy.
 
In short, if I had a happy childhood, then Kuwaitball and indeed all the anons (Bernds also) on the Internet would not have to endure my antics
ItalyBernd2025-07-18 17:50:55 · 11mnNo. 345049reply
it's ultimately the same thing
nature vs nurture is a bullshit libshit argument because nurture is, ultimately, nature
TexasBernd2025-07-19 16:17:36 · 11mnNo. 345094reply
>But I'm not bad!
Sorry Bernd it’s just people Milieu and development play a crucial role if people become criminals or not.
TexasBernd2025-07-19 16:23:35 · 11mnNo. 345095reply
>explain away criminal behavior with genetics
Genetic determinism is a real
MoscowBernd2025-07-21 12:37:34 · 11mnNo. 345230reply
True, true, and in fact a lot of genetics are really "epigenetics" which is nature directed by nurture. Technically genetics explain up to 80% of IQ in adult people, but I believe most people fail to account that it might not be innate genetics you can't change, but epigenetics. Alcohol messes up embryos and sperm quality (thus genes), yet the majority of the population drinks anyway. There's probably other factors like malnutrition during pregnancy, stress, air quality, etc etc.
Yeah, I can see that.
Children are naturally narcissistic and have a lack of complex empathy, aka understanding people that isn't just projecting your feelings onto them. Most may end up developing due to culture, or predisposition. But a bad guy genetics man with a good life wouldn't ever have the need for it, he would develop skills to justify his entitlement, to assert his superiority, use people to fulfill his needs, etc. Like your average greedy pedophile politician or something.
 
But I'm actually surprised how much it takes for the average person to kill.
AustraliaBernd2025-07-21 13:11:31 · 11mnNo. 345231reply
How would you describe genetic determinism?
Even if we remove bad developmental influences, it seems like people's behavior is still shaped a lot by social environment, especially early environment.
TexasBernd2025-07-21 17:01:08 · 11mnNo. 345248reply
>How would you describe genetic determinism?
One of these people are a feminist, a pedophile, and a Bernd. If you can tell who’s who then genetic determinism is probably real. What’s more could you image them to look any other way.
 
>it seems like people's behavior is still shaped a lot by social environment, especially early environment.
Yes indeed, that’s what makes the self.
AustraliaBernd2025-07-21 17:23:50 · 11mnNo. 345250reply
Umm... Being able to make an assumption based on your looks isn't proof of genetic determinism though. One of these is just clearly a prison photo, another a fat woman and then some random dude with an eye problem. Being able to predict if someone's a feminist based on their gender is a bit of a far cry from genetic determinism tbh. (in fact it also depends on the country and city they're from, their cultural environment, coping mechanisms even)
 
I think the term you're looking for is phrenology.
TexasBernd2025-07-21 21:06:44 · 11mnNo. 345254reply
>Umm... Being able to make an assumption based on your looks isn't proof of genetic determinism
But you get what I’m saying. How certain characteristics determined by genes can alter who they are around thus altering the person.
>Being able to predict if someone's a feminist based on their gender is a bit of a far cry from genetic determinism
It’s not being able to predict something (that a stereotype) it’s the certain features that they grew up with that can change who they are. Think how much different things could’ve been, if feminists was black, if funpark had a working eye.
>phrenology
phrenology Is ultimately wrong, how you look, genetic or not determines the environment and place you are in.
>some random dude
Funpark Bernd you mean.
AustraliaBernd2025-07-21 21:37:43 · 11mnNo. 345256reply
I think you might enjoy this one: https://vole.wtf/coder-serial-killer-quiz/
TexasBernd2025-07-24 05:04:39 · 11mnNo. 345374reply
BavariaBernd2025-07-24 18:24:19 · 11mnNo. 345399reply
> a working eye
looks like a literal chad and apparently just because he has a bad eye he has self esteem issues?
SAD :/
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