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IsraelBernd2024-12-28 09:13:23 · 1yNo. 330151reply
Bernd, can you imagine yourself on the more than a month long battle of Kursk, having to grab 10, 15 minutes sleep in a ditch or fox hole, lice in your clothes, artillery fire noise over your head?
 
Do you think soviets and Germans who took part on these long battles got permanently damaged from fatigue, poor diet?
FinlandBernd2024-12-28 09:18:39 · 1yNo. 330152reply
Prolonged stress always leads to brain damage afaik as i know
Elevated cortisol levels prevent the brain from getting everything that it needs
IsraelBernd2024-12-28 10:09:57 · 1yNo. 330156reply
Why men have to kill each other in month long battles without sleep or bathrooms, while women sit at home? Who invented this?
FinlandBernd2024-12-28 10:57:43 · 1yNo. 330159reply
idk, women or jews probably
GermanyBernd2024-12-28 11:57:22 · 1yNo. 330160reply
its not like women don't pay a price in a war.
HungaryBernd2024-12-28 15:52:00 · 1yNo. 330166reply
It was The Jew of course.
HungaryBernd2024-12-28 16:01:57 · 1yNo. 330168reply
But to reply to OP. No, I can't say I can imagine myself. Those hardships you listed is way beyond anything we could experience since then. There are tiring and stressful situations, and even in the West many people experience their life as living in constant stress despite they have the comfiest situation in history ever.
I'm not sure if they suffered permanent damage from it. Despite what modern psychology says, hardships tend to strengthen one's character on the long run. Think of your own: those Jews, who left Europe and participated in the foundation of Israel, who stayed active in the following decades building up the state, were the toughest Jews of all time.
Again I suggest reading the book On Killing by LtCol Grossman.
FinlandBernd2024-12-28 16:43:52 · 1yNo. 330170reply
>I'm not sure if they suffered permanent damage from it. Despite what modern psychology says, hardships tend to strengthen one's character on the long run
 
the psychological long term outcome depends on whether they suffered permanent physical injuries or lost family members etc
GermanyBernd2024-12-28 18:01:04 · 1yNo. 330174reply
You're autistic.
TurkeyBernd2024-12-28 19:48:32 · 1yNo. 330177reply
There are german doc about stalingrad on youtube with interviews and letters from participants, i watched it like 10 years ago, it was interesting and sorta on topic.
IsraelBernd2024-12-28 20:29:06 · 1yNo. 330182reply
Can you link it?
I hate looking for these documentaries on YouTube, there are so many clickbaits made by retards.
It's very fascinating for me how long and exhausting Stalingrad and kursk must have been.
 
Very fascinating for me to see photos of German soldiers eating bread on top of tanks... To see their day to day lives, how they slep and pooped and ate.
IsraelBernd2024-12-28 20:31:49 · 1yNo. 330183reply
Sleep deprivattion and long duration poor sleep cause early dementia
HungaryBernd2024-12-28 20:37:46 · 1yNo. 330184reply
Meh.
Neither terror bombing of London nor of the German cities in WWII had demoralizing effect, actually the other way around.
Anyway, here's the book. It even has a chapter titled:
>The Nature of Psychiatric Casualties:
>The Psychological Price of War
 
Not sure why would you comment that, but that other thread some time ago proved otherwise.
 
All right.
HungaryBernd2024-12-28 20:39:29 · 1yNo. 330185reply
TurkeyBernd2024-12-29 02:13:08 · 1yNo. 330201reply
Yeah i know youtube docs are ai generated garbage, but this one i think was made for tv.
FinlandBernd2024-12-29 13:13:12 · 1yNo. 330232reply
occasiona bombing raids are not nearly as stressful as constant enemy contact atta frontier
 
plus if something traumatic habbens such as losing a limb, you will likely never be intact psychologically against
GermanyBernd2024-12-29 13:49:10 · 1yNo. 330237reply
>Not sure why would you comment that
You took OP's question literally, it was rhetorical.
TurkeyBernd2024-12-29 16:09:08 · 1yNo. 330247reply
Are you sure about that?
GermanyBernd2024-12-29 16:43:19 · 1yNo. 330251reply
Nobody expects a real answer when he asks "Can you imagine..."? It's just an expression of surprise and shock one feels to share with others.
TurkeyBernd2024-12-29 17:53:26 · 1yNo. 330256reply
Pretty questionable.
HungaryBernd2024-12-30 08:58:15 · 1yNo. 330287reply
>occasional bombing raids
These were systematic bombing campaigns in order to break the morale of the civilian population. That was the intention when they launched these, based on actual military theory. An Italian aviator general came up with the idea after WWI when they observed soldiers broke psychologically due to artillery fire. This information is available elsewhere, but again I suggest reading the book here >>330184 because this topic is also covered.
>plus if something traumatic habbens such as losing a limb
We weren't talking about injuries and their impact tho.
 
 
You must be a great conversationalist.
But he did not ask:
>Can you imagine what was it like?
He asked:
>Can you imagine yourself doing that?
Answering such a question is not an error, especially on a board where people complain that there is little to no conversation and posting.
IsraelBernd2024-12-30 10:38:24 · 1yNo. 330288reply
Thank you very much.
IsraelBernd2024-12-30 10:49:03 · 1yNo. 330289reply
My question is prompted by a scene such as this one, where the soldier is eating sandwiches on top of an armoured vehicle.
 
If the battle was on an open field, with an ever shifting front where units were moving all the time, and lasted more than a month, this means that soldiers slept poorly, barely ate properly, barely had their necessities.
 
Do sleep bad for 3 days, it's okay, but a month? This causes permanent damage, no?
HungaryBernd2024-12-30 17:39:08 · 1yNo. 330312reply
This pic here is relevant: >>330185
Combat effectiveness vs days in combat.
It would be good to know how units were rotated and rested. For example an infantry regiment has several battalions (3-4), and each battalion have several companies (3-4). They can be rotated and moved into action and withdrew from it, to give them rest. So when a regiment fights a month long battle, not necessarily all the soldiers participate constantly.
Surely "resting" in such battle not comfortable, but could be just enough.
So would be nice to know how things were done in practice.
United KingdomBernd2024-12-31 09:53:45 · 1yNo. 330340reply
I have no idea how the fuck they did it. Must have permanently fucked them up
HungaryBernd2024-12-31 10:12:22 · 1yNo. 330343reply
On a related note.
US units were placed permanently to the front and weren't rotated out. They have their own reinforcement system to fill up the ranks. The established depots where new recruits arrived from training and where they were distributed to the units at the front. As a unit suffered casualties new people arrived next day to fill the ranks. There were companies which suffered ~90% casualties on day 1, but started full roster day 2 which again suffered ~90% casualty during the day, but started day 3 again with full roster, etc.
I wonder how other participants did the rotation. I'm sure military history literature has accounts on this. I probably won't look it up due to lack of time.
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