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Sloveniamozart is shit, SHIT!Bernd2021-12-24 21:52:24 · 5yNo. 130599reply
The fact that so many books still name Mozart as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" classical composer ever only tells you how far classical music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Rock critics rank the highly controversial Velvet Underground over rock musicians who were highly popular among teenage girls around Europe. Classical critics are still blinded by concert hall success. Mozart is played more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore he must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, rock critics grow up listening to a lot of rock music of the past. Classical critics are often totally ignorant of the classical music outside the top 40, they barely know their lesser known pieces. No wonder they will think that Mozart did anything worthy of being saved. In a sense, Mozart is emblematic of the status of classical criticism as a whole: too much attention paid to performance and score worship (be it symphonies or Wagner) and too little to the merits of real musicians. If somebody composes the most divine music but no maestro picks him up and performs his music in a concert hall, a lot of classical critics will ignore him. If a major symphony orchestra picks up a composer who is as stereotyped as can be but launches her or him worldwide, your average critic will waste rivers of ink on her or him. This is the sad status of classical criticism: classical critics are basically publicists working for major labels, orchestras, and opera halls. They simply highlight what product the music business wants to make money from.
 
Hopefully, one not-too-distant day, there will be a clear demarcation between a great musician like Hans Rott, who was never performed much, and products of social circles like Mozart. At such a time, classical critics will study their classical history and understand which artists accomplished which musical feat, and which simply exploited their social circles.
FinlandBernd2021-12-25 07:10:20 · 5yNo. 130620reply
Not to sound too hateful but did you really right all this rubbish yourself, Slov? At first glance I was certain it's copied from Reddit or Quora or something.
 
Mozart's music is perfect. Beethoven is that real super overrated nibba in music that's in need of bashing.
United StatesBernd2021-12-25 07:27:13 · 5yNo. 130622sagereply
It's stale pasta that this glowie thought was funny, very sad.
 
Merry Christmas Finland
FinlandBernd2021-12-25 07:57:40 · 5yNo. 130623reply
Ah yes
Merry Christmas Murika
SloveniaBernd2021-12-25 11:28:28 · 5yNo. 130631reply
it is edited from Scaruffi's copypasta review where he shits on Beatles.
GermanyBernd2021-12-25 16:40:06 · 5yNo. 130663sagereply
mozart = epic
op = fag
GermanyBernd2021-12-25 22:53:37 · 5yNo. 130671reply
Oh, found it.
 
ADMIN WHEN WILL YOU ADD QUERYING THE CATALOG FOR ALL BOARDS TOGETHER REEE
GermanyBernd2021-12-25 22:57:12 · 5yNo. 130672reply
If Mozart wrote his music today likely nobody would give a shit.
 
Also my favourite musician is Ted Greene.
 
Look how he dismantels Bach improvising while having a conversation:
SloveniaBernd2021-12-25 23:21:24 · 5yNo. 130673reply
Well, Bach himself was a renowned improviser. One of his magnum opuses, The Musical Offering, is a result of an improvisation on behest of king Frederick II. JSB's son, CPE, was the concertmaster at the Prussian court, and Frederick II wanted to show JSB what was then a novel invention, the fortepiano, and to see him improvising. So he presented JSB with a complex (very chromatic) theme and asked him, can he do a three-voice fugue, which JSB promptly improvised. But when asked if he could do a six-voice one, JSB responded that yes, but not on spot. So, he kept his word and in 4 months presented Frederick II not with just a six-voice fugue, but also 10 canons on the same theme, and an unrelated trio sonata for Frederick II, himself a flutist.
SloveniaBernd2021-12-25 23:24:53 · 5yNo. 130675reply
Frederick II also sometimes wrote music for himself to play. He was not a brilliant composer or flute player, but I honestly fail to see in what sense the majority of overplayed Mozart's works are any better than this: YouTube: 4_dDTTnuq9c
SloveniaBernd2021-12-25 23:27:22 · 5yNo. 130676reply
Same flutist, Mozart.
GermanyBernd2021-12-25 23:40:41 · 5yNo. 130677reply
yeah, they're not
 
also check out Salieri, rival of Mozart.
My violin teacher is a huge fan of him and years ago he dug out some forgotten works of Salieri in Prague and had an orchestra perform it.
 
I don't understand why Mozart is so overhyped but I won't let anyone shittalk Bach, I love Bach.
SloveniaBernd2021-12-25 23:57:23 · 5yNo. 130678reply
Muzio Clementi is another one from Mozart's generation who gets a bit overlooked. I much prefer his sonatas over Mozart.
That's not to say Mozart didn't have his moments. He shines in his humorous operas, his final symphonies are quite good, and the Romanze, the middle movement from his piano concerto no.20 is one of my favourite piano concertante compositions.
However, the vast majority of his output is frankly mediocre. Dude didn't care much about quality. It makes no sense to focus on Mozart so much.
GermanyBernd2021-12-26 16:25:06 · 5yNo. 130704reply
Did you learn that from pic related? Is it worth reading?
SloveniaBernd2021-12-26 17:16:52 · 4yNo. 130707reply
I have never read pic related nor have I been aware of its existence.
HungaryBernd2022-01-01 11:15:57 · 4yNo. 131148reply
Beethoven is the Mozart of music.
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